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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 11:03 PM
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Salon: Tucker Carlson Interview
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What about your profile of George W. Bush in Talk in 1999? That had to be the most damaging profile of him yet written -- swearing like a truck driver, making fun of Karla Faye Tucker's death penalty appeals, mimicking her saying, "Don't kill me!" -- because of its high profile, and because of your access to him. Did that bring you flak from conservatives?

Well, it's always disconcerting when something you write is received in a way you don't expect. I have no problem hurting someone's feelings -- obviously, I work on "Crossfire" -- but when you don't expect to, it's disconcerting. As I put in the book, the day before I filed the piece my wife asked, "Aren't people going to think you're sucking up?" And that was my concern, that people would think it's a suck-up piece.

And the response from team Bush?

It was very, very hostile. The reaction was: You betrayed us. Well, I was never there as a partisan to begin with.

Then I heard that Karen Hughes accused me of lying. And so I called Karen and asked her why she was saying this, and she had this almost Orwellian rap that she laid on me about how things she'd heard -- that I watched her hear -- she in fact had never heard, and she'd never heard Bush use profanity ever. It was insane.

I've obviously been lied to a lot by campaign operatives, but the striking thing about the way she lied was she knew I knew she was lying, and she did it anyway. There is no word in English that captures that. It almost crosses over from bravado into mental illness.

They get carried away, consultants do, in the heat of the campaign, they're really invested in this. A lot of times they really like the candidate. That's all conventional. But on some level, you think, there's a hint of recognition that there is reality -- even if they don't recognize reality exists -- there is an objective truth. With Karen you didn't get that sense at all. A lot of people like her. A lot of people I know like her. I'm not one of them.

Did you suffer from it?

No, I don't think I suffered for it, really. It wasn't, in the end, that big a deal. I see Bush every year at the White House Christmas Party, and he's nice enough to me.

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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 11:06 PM
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1. the striking thing about the way she lied was she knew I knew she was lyin
"the striking thing about the way she lied was she knew I knew she was lying, and she did it anyway. There is no word in English that captures that. It almost crosses over from bravado into mental illness."

Love it! King Junior has crossed that line many, many times!
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 11:21 PM
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2. There is a word that kind of captures it
Orwellian.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 11:23 PM
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3. Agreed, Thought Criminal!
And let me be the first to congratulate you on 1000 posts!
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