Mike Moores latest

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Mike's Message September 23, 2003
"And Now a Chance to Bid Farewell to Mr. Bush" (from Michael Moore)

Last week, over 30,000 of you from my list sent letters to Wesley Clark urging to him to run. And, hey, um -- it looks like it helped! He announced on Wednesday and by Sunday he was #1 in the Newsweek poll on the 10 Democratic candidates. By yesterday, according to the CNN/Time poll, he was nine points ahead of his nearest rival -- and three percentage points ahead of Bush if the election were held today.

But now the hard part begins. In my open letter to General Clark, while strongly encouraging him to run, I told him that I was not yet endorsing him -- I have no plans to endorse anyone at this point -- yet I thought his voice should be heard in this campaign. Why? Because I heard him say things that I think the American public needs to hear.

My wife and I were invited over to a neighbor's home 12 days ago where Clark told those gathered that certain people, acting on behalf of the Bush administration, called him immediately after the attacks on September 11th and asked him to go on TV to tell the country that Saddam Hussein was "involved" in the attacks. He asked them for proof, but they couldn't provide any. He refused their request.
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[mddemo]

1. moore

My problem with Moore and now franklin after his performance at deans hustings, is that instead of well reasoned arguments and debate, they spout off. If we are to change hearts and minds we have to start by not offending people. My wife an undecided was totally disgusted with franklin and it moved her back towards bush from dean.

[Supply Side Jesus]

2. Franklin?

who the hell is Franklin??

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3. al franken?

you might mean al franken..as far as moore goes he offers opinion not policy..keep that in mind..cheers

[mojowork_n]

6. It's like the NFL and referees

The guy starting the mess gets a free pass. The ref only throws a flat at the second (or third) guy to react, so what you see is not the whole story.

And curiously enough, on the cable news networks (CN N and MSNBC, as well as Faux), that's all you ever get to see, the over-the-top emotional reactions to things that are presented out of context.

They' re not out to help you actually think, or make up your own mind, based on factual information. It's the cheap shot, the gut reaction that's so much more easy to manipulate. (And shock, and draw attention, and raise the ratings.)

[ET Awful]

4. I actually liked his rebuttal to the critics of BFC better

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/

The Truth: In the spring of 2001, I saw a real ad in a real newspaper in Michigan announcing a real promotion that this real bank had where they would give you a gun (as your up-front interest) for opening up a Certificate of Deposit account. They promoted this in publications all over the country – "More Bang for Your Buck!"

There was news coverage of this bank giving away guns, long before I even shot the scene there. The Chicago Sun Times wrote about how the bank would "hand you a gun" with the purchase of a CD. Those are the precise words used by a bank employee in the film.

When you see me going in to the bank and walking out with my new gun in "Bowling for Columbine" – that is exactly as it happened. Nothing was done out of the ordinary other than to phone ahead and ask permission to let me bring a camera in to film me opening up my account. I walked into that bank in northern Michigan for the first time ever on that day in June 2001, and, with cameras rolling, gave the bank teller $1,000 – and opened up a 20-year CD account. After you see me filling out the required federal forms ("How do you spell Caucasian?") – which I am filling out here for the first time – the bank manager faxed it to the bank's main office for them to do the background check. The bank is a licensed federal arms dealer and thus can have guns on the premises and do the instant background checks (the ATF's Federal Firearms database—which includes all federally approved gun dealers—lists North Country Bank with Federal Firearms License #4-38-153-01-5C-39922).

Within 10 minutes, the "OK" came through from the firearms background check agency and, 5 minutes later, just as you see it in the film, they handed me a Weatherby Mark V Magnum rifle (If you'd like to see the outtakes, click here).

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Nice to see the man himself respond to the BS :) (see link for his complete article)

[Rich Hunt]

5. important

Moore's latest has some really important revelations.

Well, they may not be a surprise to most of us, but they're still important (if they're true - and they're certainly plausible) :

Standing in that living room 12 nights ago, Clark continued to share more private conversations. In the months leading up the Iraq War, friends of his at the Pentagon -- high-ranking career military officers -- told him that the military brass did NOT want this war in Iraq, that it violated the Powell Doctrine of "start no war if you don't know what your exit strategy is." They KNEW we would be in this mess, and they asked the General, in his role now as a television commentator, to inform the American people of this folly. And, as best he could, that's what he did.


That's what I like about MM - he dishes dirt!