Real Democracy and How The 2004 election was stolen using the same

[frankly_fedup2]

tactics as the Republicans used in 2000.

(snip) The Conyers Report states categorically, "With regards to our factual finding, in brief, we find that there were massive and unprecedented voter irregularities and anomalies in Ohio. In many cases these irregularities were caused by intentional misconduct and illegal behavior, much of it involving Secretary of State Kenneth J. Blackwell, the co-chair of the Bush-Cheney campaign in Ohio." In other words, the Florida 2000 scenario redux, when the chair for Bush/Cheney was also the Secretary of State. Lesson? Always plan ahead for at least four more years. (snip)


Complete article http://www.alternet.org/story/22222/


I wonder, why didn't Kerry have this investigated?? I also wonder why Kerry did not read Rep. Conyer's report, and if he has, why hasn't he brought charges against those that broke the law?

[rfranklin]

1. Exactly how would Kerry bring charges?

He's not a D.A. anymore.

[frankly_fedup2]

3. Not him personally. I meant if he could prove these charges,

why didn't Kerry get an attorney and file charges of election fraud for one. Maybe I needed to word that better.

[acmavm]

2. There are a lot of things to wonder about John Kerry. He said one thing

(I will guarantee that every vote will count) and did another (went out without a whimper and barely a protest).

A lot of people thought a deal was made. I have days when I seriously wonder.

[frankly_fedup2]

4. I never heard anything about the suspicion of a deal. Do you know

what this "deal" could have been????

[reality based]

5. Well he voted for it before he voted against it

Who knew Kerry was Hamlet. That's unfair, I know. But it still grates on me that he threw away his strength as both a war hero and principled opponent to stupid wars during the run up to the 2004 election. His conduct in the immediate aftermath of the election had the marks of trying too hard to position himself for another run in 2008. At what point will he fight for democracy? Both he and Gore have failed to make democracy and popular control of elections an issue in the aftermath of flawed elections. I have understood that, when Andrew Jackson lost the Presidency to John Quincy Adams in a back room deal, he and his supporters spent the next four years raging against the corrupt maneuvering that deprived "the people" of their vote. That culminated in Jackson's subsequent election and the beginning of the modern Democratic Party as we know it. I think Kerry's only real chance for 2008 is to portray himself as the rightful winner in 2004. The Conyer's Report gives him an opening. He is fumbling that opportunity right now. (That was also a strategy that Al Gore passed up in 2004.) "Government of the people, by the people, and for the people" is still a pretty good political theme, especially for modern day Democrats that want to get away from special interest politics.

[wallwriter]

6. I would love to see the Conyers report on the MSM.

Any hope?