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veracity Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 10:28 AM
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9/11-PNAC Should Be the #1 Topic of Discussion!!
9/11-PNAC, 9/11-PNAC
SHOULD BE THE #1 TOPIC OF DISCUSSION

A WAKE-UP CALL THE ALTERNATIVE AND LIBERAL MEDIA:
TO STOP IGNORING 9/11 AND THE PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY
Jesse, TvNewsLIES.org Editor, 12, July, 2005

We must open PNAC and 9/11 to public discourse because all roads may very well lead to or from 9/11.

9/11 is not the reason the Bush/PNAC agenda took shape, it is the
excuse for implementing it.

9/11 gave these men everything they could possibly ask for including unlimited power to implement their otherwise unacceptable plans for global domination. Nothing else would have enabled them to go ahead with their plans. 9/11 was the greatest thing that ever happened to these men. If that does not make you suspicious, nothing will. What are the odds that all of this is nothing more than a historical coincidence? Do these facts, at the very least, merit public discourse?

Unless the events of 9/11 are discussed openly and without apprehension, nothing else is real. When the people who benefited the most from the events of 9/11 were the very people responsible for preventing them, something is wrong. Since these people had ability to prevent, permit or conduct the events themselves, their collective and individual responses to the events must be examined and analyzed to the last detail. Anything less would be cowardice.

Even a rookie detective will tell you that motive and means are the keys to identifying suspects in a crime. The self-proclaimed goals of the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) clearly establish a more realistic and plausible motive to create a "new Pearl Harbor" than can be attributed to any Islamic extremist. As a matter of fact, the events of 9/11 were perhaps the most counterproductive factors in the history of Islamic progress. They resulted in an overwhelming backlash against the many Islamic people around the world.

Contrast the two motives. For the neocons in PNAC, 9/11 was a dream come true. Their dormant agenda now had an excuse for being implemented. On the other hand, the motive attributed to terrorists for the events of 9/11 was the laughable "they hate our freedom,” ostensibly stemming from the teachings of Islam. In truth, such acts would have violated the teachings of their religion and exponentially added a heavy burden to the daily life of every Muslim. This is not to say that there were no Al Qaeda types involved in the events of 9/11. It merely raises unanswered questions about what Al Qaeda really is and with whom their members work. And if they were actually involved in the events, what were the real reasons for their actions? Their motives, not those attributed to them, have to become part of the public discourse.

THE RESPONSE TO 9/11: We discuss the Iraq war as if the plans to invade Iraq were suddenly thought of on 9/11. We do the same with the Patriot Act. We do the same with the war in Afghanistan. We do the same for the continual assault on our Constitution. We do the same for the unprecedented rise in government secrecy (which actually started prior to 9/11, with Cheney's secret energy policy meetings). As a matter of fact, the administration is doing just about anything it wants, in secret, using the excuse of 9/11. This unlimited power is a dream come true for the PNAC cabal. The media constantly repeat the neocon mantra that 9/11 justifies all of this unchecked power. Nothing can be further from the truth.

Full article: http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/stop_ignoring_9_11___pnac.html
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 10:31 AM
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1. PNAC, the dominionists and all they stand for should be on the tongue
of every person. These people have done tragic damage to our once great republic.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 10:37 AM
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2. Simple as that.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:11 AM
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3. Nominated. I agree and have been saying this FOREVER! nt.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 10:38 PM
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4. I fully agree - and throw in the London similarities....
Both countries having a drill on the EXACT same day, at the EXACT same time , simulating the (almost) EXACT same terrorist events that occured in the respective counntries.
In Britan it was exactly the same, in the US it was just 'terrorist hijacked -planes hitting tall buildings'.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 10:48 PM
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5. without a doubt.. PNAC and 911 are the BIG LIE that people have trouble..
understanding that these people would be so cold/evil/mean..

All I have to say is.. what happened to WTC7? .. if you dont know what I mean, look into it, its not hard.. many sites cover this question, and the only answer that makes any sense in controlled demolition, and if you can explain the video any other way I'd love to hear it.. my mind is open.. I just have yet to hear ANY explination, even the 911 "commission" didnt explain it.. or even try! If your new to this topic, brace yourself.. the truth is a bumpy ride!

of course if it was controlled demo the question only get worse.. when did they plant the charges.. who authorized it and so on...

but I'm getting ahead of the investigation...

WTC 7 .. focus... what happened to WTC7!
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:15 PM
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6. must read
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/071305Mejia/071305mejia.html

CLICK HERE FOR THE ARTICLE

CLAIMS THAT THE REASON WE CAN'T GET TRACTION ON 911 IS THAT BOTH SIDES OF THE ISLE ARE FIGHTING TO KEEP IT UNDER WRAPS.......THAT EVEN THE DEMOCRATS WOULD BE EMBARRASSED..............

:shrug:
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:20 PM
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7. Perhaps 9/11-PNAC *Should Be* the #1 Topic of Discussion
but it isn't. Not on this forum and not in most forums, including in the world beyond the blogosphere. It may be that before people are willing to turn their gaze to that most despicable crime, they need to first learn HOW TO SEE with fresh sight. Lies are difficult to see when one has alot invested in seeing them as true. The whole, collective media driven American self perception is of a wounded and righteous nation. Telling the truth before people are ready to hear it can get you crucified.

It appears now that some are going after Cheney through Rove. And if there was a central figure capable of pulling off 9/11 from the inside, it is Cheney.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:55 PM
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8. That is the absolute truth
The best tools we have are knowledge and free speech.
Everything the Administration does is secretive and that should give all a frickin' clue.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 12:32 AM
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9. I have feared the same thing
we're attacking the symptoms of the disease, and not the root by running around on all these other issues. Thank you for bringing this to the frontburners again
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:05 AM
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10. It's not that the administration as a whole implemented the PNAC strategy.
It's the laws they broke to get it implemented.

It's that they lied while hiding the policies in plain sight.

It's that they subverted or handcuffed institutions producing information that would steer policies and public opinion away from The Plan.

It's that thier corporate cronies were alowed to run roughshod over purchasing procedures, and could ignore ethical roadblocks with apparent impugnity.

IMNSFHO, There has never been a more seditious administration elected anywhere since I daresay that German guy in the 30's.

Democrats are loath to point this out having allowed it to occur for so long, possibly even helping it along out of a perceived need for self-preservation. They helped to gird us and our children with the yoke and tack attached to this burden we will have to haul for the rest of our lives.

For that I'm truly pissed, and this villager is waiting for the torches and pitchforks moment.

-Hoot
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:00 AM
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11. Kick!!!
Why is it that here on DU, open discussion on the numerous holes, inconsistencies and outright falsehoods in the official story of 9/11 is not possible?

As mentioned above, we need go no further than WTC7. But there is also the topic of the wargames on the morning of 9/11, the unexplained insider trading, the timelines altered by the 9/11 Commission, etc., etc., etc.
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