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pandemic_1918 Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:05 AM
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Four Suspect H5N1 Bird Flu Cases in Irtysh Kazakhstan
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/08020501/H5N1_Kazakhstan_Irtysh_4.html

Four Suspect H5N1 Bird Flu Cases in Irtysh Kazakhstan

Disease is revealed in four inhabitants of the village Of abay of Irtysh region. In the urban infectious hospital they isolated separate boxing to victims, they are found in the complete isolation. Among the sick two children. However, doctors assert, that there are no occasions for panic. The state of patients average heavy. According to one version, goose meat could become the reason for infection. All patients used it for a day or two before the hospitalization. Birds were brought from Novosibirsk. However, the source of infection is not thus far accurately established. Epidemiologists speak about several possible factors - aqueous, food, including about the virus carrier.

Information about that, what aid obtain patients, it is held in the secret. It is known, that the "hen influenza" presents for the man not smaller danger, than atypical pneumonia.

The machine translation above suggest four residents of Abay in the Irtysh region of Kazakhstan have bird flu symptoms. The location appears to be about 100 miles southwest of Chany Lake in the Novosibirsk region of Russia and near the suspect poultry worker in the Pavlodar region of Kazakhstan.

H5N1 has been confirmed in Kazakhstan as well as several locations in southern Siberia in Russian and the sequence suggest it is from the Qinghai Lake area. All H5N1 linked to the migratory bird outbreaks in Qinghai and Xinjiang China, Novosibirsk and Altai regions in Russia, and the Pavlodar region in Kazakhstan have involved geese.......
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 04:28 AM
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1. Put simply
I'm scared :scared:
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pandemic_1918 Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:32 AM
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7. H5N1 Spread Toward Europe
H5N1 is getting very close to Europe and the human cases suggest a major problem.


http://www.recombinomics.com/News/08020505/H5N1_Spread_Russia_5_Regions.html

DU thinks this is an editorial because so far only Russian papers have the story!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 04:41 AM
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2. Dupe
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:11 AM
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3. Nationalize Tamiflu factories, ignore patent
and then step up production vastly.

Millions of lives.. dont let ancient economic ideology stand in the way
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:15 AM
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4. RECOMMEND FOR GREATEST PAGE buttn, bott of OP. 4 months to get the pills
and flushots cranked up and stockpiled for the public.

Millions of shots and pills needed.

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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:16 AM
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5. Hello pandemic, Could you please explain this more thoroughly?
I'd really appreciate it. Very concerned over implications.
Thanks so much.
V

Ebola Recombinant Linked to Mystery Illness in Sichuan China?

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/07300501/Ebola_Recombinant.html
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pandemic_1918 Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:29 AM
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6. Ebola in China
China has several strains of Ebola that have been isolated

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/07190501/Boxun_Ebola_Strains.html

However, now a new version appears to have been isolated from patients in Sichuan and it is a recombinant. It is not clear what it recombined with, but Ebola and H5N1 have a region of identity. which could allow for exchange of genetic information.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 09:13 AM
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8. Thank you pan,
this could end up so badly, don't you believe so?
V
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 09:33 AM
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9. The Earth
I sometimes believe that the earth responds to the over-crowding by nasty weather or Tsunamis and occasionally by a virulent unstoppable virus like the one in 1917 (I think that is the right year). It killed millions, many of them contracting the flu in the morning, and dying by nightfall.

That being said, I feel about this as I do about terrorism. We can't go whining around and worrying about each little thing like this that comes along, we just live, and hope.

I wish more were concerned with the very simple concept that the Earth can only support a certain number, and I believe we are near it already. Perhaps we have surpassed it.

Are wars a simple culling mechanism? Who knows, but clearly the poorest who will possibly become a problem in the future are killed off. People who enter the service certainly are highly suggestable. You have to be kind of weak-minded (I know I'll take crap for this) to fall for the guns and glory routine that our government and all past governments have pulled. It's just another control mechanism, but I digress.
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:23 AM
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10. Oh, we've already passed it.
I think I read that the sustainable number was something like 1.5 billion (I need to dig up references again, apologies) although, of course, different "experts" have different ideas about what is actually a sustainable number. A lot depends on lifestyle.

"Sustainable" differs from "Maximum Supportable" population in that a sustainable number never uses up the resource base. Maximum Supportable is that number that can be fed, housed, etc. for a brief time but the resource base is depleted. See Easter Island for a good example of this.

No one knows for sure how it will happen, but the human population is due for a correction. Scary stuff.
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