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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:38 PM
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Did Speaker Hastert Accept Turkish Bribes to Deny Armenian Genocide and Ap
Did Speaker Hastert Accept Turkish Bribes to Deny Armenian Genocide and Approve Weapons Sales?



SIBEL EDMONDS: As I said, Amy, I have been giving all the details to the appropriate channels. And they have been confirmed. And what I have said all along is the fact that as far as the 9/11 is concerned, September 11 is concerned, these departments -- and when I say “these departments,” the Department of Justice, the Department of State, and the Department of Defense -- have intentionally blocked the investigations of real -- the real criminals in this country. And we are talking about countries involved. The Vanity Fair article points out to Turkey -- countries. And it's very interesting. To this date, we are not hearing anything about targeting, you know, certain Central Asian countries. They are not speaking about the link between the narcotics and al Qaeda. Yes, we are hearing about them coming down on some charities as the real funds behind al Qaeda, but most of al Qaeda's funding is not through these charity organizations. It's through narcotics. And have you heard anything to this date, anything about these issues which we have had information since 1997? And as I would again emphasize, we are talking about countries. And they are blocking this information, and also the fact that certain officials in this country are engaged in treason against the United States and its interests and its national security, be it the Department of State or certain elected officials.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/10/1346254

Looks to me like it is becoming LIHOP if not MIHOP!
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back2basics909 Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:46 PM
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1. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!
Donate to Ruben Zamora's campaign so we can send Hastert home.

This will not come out before 2006, but with the bad press and the huge amount of corruption in Chicago politics we can really push Hastert.

http://www.zamoraforcongress.org/contributions.html
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:48 PM
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2. Sibol has got raw courage....she wants the real crooks in jail!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:58 PM
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3. I do fear for her life. She's so close to breaking that gag order.
It frightens me. It's obvious that she has more courage than that Judith Miller bitch.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:57 PM
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8. I hope she has good life insurance: just a hint that if anything should
happen to her that hundreds of copies of all of her secrets will simultaneously hit the internet, the foreign press and the managed media. Her only safety is being more of a threat dead than she is alive!
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 05:26 PM
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4. I give up with these LIHOP/MIHOP statements...
Look, if they "let it happen" that means they were active in "not stopping it from happening" and that makes MIHOP. Letting something happen, on purpose, is making it happen. Be that as it may, use the language, not code.

Although it is not clear if Hastertt took/is taking bribes, what is clear is as follows:

1). The only once used (in 50 years) state secrets gag order that Ashcroft silenced Edmonds with lends credibility to her story.

2). The fact that both Republicans and Democrats are implicated adds credibility to her story.

3). The fact that Hastert changed his vote at the last moment would lend credibility to her case.

4). The fact that lower courts were not allowed to hear her case, not even the FISA court and its high level clearance, would lend credibility to her case.

5). The government accountability office investigated her claims and found her to be credible. That is not to say they addressed the Hastert issue, just the story as a whole.

In short, Scott Peterson was convicted because his own actions showed him to be guilty, by any reasonable standard, after the crime. By the same token, Ashcroft's crazed use of a a 50 year old law and Hastert's own behavior, and all blockades to have this heard in court would indicate that:

1). This government wants to silence her because her claims are true
2). If her claims are true, then Hastert - third in line to the throne - is taking bribes from Turkey. However, Turkey was not involved in the 9/11 hit.

What is MORE important is the drug runs and money coming in from Pakistan to Atta and others. That is more important than the vote buying, because at this point, the fact that no one cares that the Speaker of the House is making policy decisions based on bribes from foreign nationals would lead me to conclude that they are by and large all doing it.

If you want to communicate effectively, stop using MIHOP and LIHOP. It deludes the issue and it makes the whole topic seem like a crazed saucer theory.

The reality is, there are two conspiracy theories, and the less plausible, believable, and the most laughable is the official version. The alternative conspiracy theory, or the truth, is and will continue to be ignored by the public if people are unable to speak of it clearly.

In short:
LIHOP=MIHOP and better still, Bush/Cheney were involved either directly or indirectly in the 9/11 hit on the US. Simple.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 05:47 PM
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6. Fine
Each to their own. You can argue what you wish about terms. I think people understand what I said.

The rest was said in the interview.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:43 PM
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7. Sorry, do not mean to be pissy
Just that I want to have a serious discussion about this, but I cannot find anyone to use actual words and not acronyms. I am sorry if I may have been snippy. That was not my intention and yes, I got what you were saying.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:09 PM
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9. Well
I can't go into it too much, as I don't have enough information. However, that said, I have noticed a change in what Sibel has been saying. She seems to be moving from a cover-up and shut-up to laying out a broad space to look at what has happened.

There are many more possibilities than the items in front of our nose. Seems to me that the longer Sibel is censored, the bigger the story will become. Much like deep throat.

For instance I find it amazing that the electronic balloting is a discussion between who will count the votes for a R/D candidate and not considering the aspect that a false voting system is subject to others taking control.(This in no way is something coming from Sibel, but something that nobody is even considering.)
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 05:47 PM
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5. pretty much guaranteed
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