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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 03:07 PM
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"Rove 101" By Molly Ivins,Progressive Magazine September issue
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 03:30 PM by Algorem
http://progressive.org/?q=mag_ivins0905

Exclusive from the September 2005 Issue

The pure joy of the whole Karl Rove/Valerie Plame affair is in watching the massive Republican spin-control machine in operation. Here’s Rove, who has famously gone after his political enemies over the years on behalf of any candidate he has ever been hired to represent, now unleashing his entire spin operation, perfected over five years in the White House, on behalf of . . . himself. It’s just so interesting to watch it work.

The entire Republican Party, under Rove’s whip, finds itself shocked (!) that anyone would suggest Karl Rove (!!) might actually go after an opponent’s wife in order to discredit said opponent. Oh, the horror. And Karl has always been such a sweet boy.

Any political reporter who doesn’t recognize the going-after-the-wife gambit as Rove 101 should be hanged for dereliction of duty.

One time Rove was displeased with the work done by a Republican advanceman. Rove’s response was: “We will fuck him. Do you hear me? We will fuck him. We will ruin him. Like no one else has ever fucked him.” And that was a guy who was on his side...

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PurgedVoter Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 03:14 PM
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1. I love Molly,
Since we lost Barbara Jordon she is the one great Texas Gal that just plain talks sense.
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cloud_chaser1 Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 03:26 PM
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2. Molly Ivins for President!!!!!!!
I first ran across her columns two years ago and havent missed one since. She is GREAT!!!!!!:woohoo:
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 10:18 PM
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10. Welcome, cloud chaser
:hi:

Are you, by any chance, a glider pilot?
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cloud_chaser1 Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 11:08 AM
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19. Glider?
Nope. A B-52 doesnt glide.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 11:32 AM
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21. Wow, that's some heavy iron.
You're playing in the big leagues. Prolly not as relaxing as flying a sailplane, though...

Anyway, enjoy your new home on the Internets.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:07 AM
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14. Hi cloud_chaser1!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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cloud_chaser1 Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 11:09 AM
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20. Thanks.
Its like being home among friends.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:27 PM
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3. This excellent article needs just one more nomination
Please let it be the next reader.

Molly is wonderful!
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:37 PM
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4. Nominated just on the basis of the last paragraph:
<snip>
But we’re missing something here. Of course, Rove outed Plame; the most important question is why. Why would he go so far out of his way to undermine the report about a claim so weak that no one who saw it took it seriously? Because Joe Wilson stood up in front of God and everybody and said they didn’t just hype the intelligence, they lied. And that was too much for Rove.
<snip>

Love it when someone tells the truth about the bush cabal.

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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 08:00 PM
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6. This forum has many excellent articles, we need to get more "out"
to the "greatest" page.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:55 PM
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16. I see we did it!
22 votes at the moment, good work E&A people.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:43 AM
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18. I think that's part of it, but I really believe it was to out Valerie's
covert company, Brewster-Jennings, which was getting way too close to finding out a lot of stuff Cheney/Halliburton had done and were doing in the Middle East. Rove wouldn't have done that without everybody knowing about it, and I think the fact that they haven't thrown him to the wolves proves that point. They have to keep him around because he knows too much, and they promote people who serve them well.
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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:43 PM
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5. If Only More Americans Had Listened
to Molly before the 2000 election. She knew how the shrub
operated and how he F'd Texas as governor.
Recommended. kicked.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 08:33 PM
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7. And Rove's dirty tricks, involving such ugliness against Ann Richards
that I KNOW he is no Christian, that got him into office in the first place. These scum are so despicable. Thank God for the Molly's of the world that attempt to wake people up!

Kicked and recommended.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:05 PM
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8. Lord love ya, Molly! Kicked and nominated.
:kick:
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:18 PM
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9. There's that "L" word again.
But we’re missing something here. Of course, Rove outed Plame; the most important question is why. Why would he go so far out of his way to undermine the report about a claim so weak that no one who saw it took it seriously? Because Joe Wilson stood up in front of God and everybody and said they didn’t just hype the intelligence, they lied. And that was too much for Rove.





and the reason that anyone who comes close to uttering it will get the full treatment from Bushco.

Why? Because Lying to the American Public about Reasons for War (let alone extramarital affairs) will get you IMPEACHED!!!!

So let's keep using that L word.

BUSH LIED!!!!
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:38 AM
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11. Molly makes me proud of my Texas roots. Hot damn girl...Go get um!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:15 AM
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12. "they lied. And that was too much for Rove."---yup



......The guidelines at the Department of Justice say that journalists, armed with notebook and pencil, should not be asked to give up our sources unless the full majesty and might of the law, with all its powers, cannot solve a crime on its own. I have seen this legal contest many a time, and in more than 90 percent of the cases where reporters are called upon to reveal their sources, all it means is that the prosecutors don’t have the sense God gave a duck. If they did, they’d be able to get the information for themselves.

In all fairness, Patrick Fitzgerald, having been called upon to investigate a possible crime involving the sticky web of Washington leakers and leakees, might well want to kick the ass of the whole sorry bunch.

I have some sympathy for that approach.

But we’re missing something here. Of course, Rove outed Plame; the most important question is why. Why would he go so far out of his way to undermine the report about a claim so weak that no one who saw it took it seriously? Because Joe Wilson stood up in front of God and everybody and said they didn’t just hype the intelligence, they lied. And that was too much for Rove.
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:33 AM
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13. And well she should mom cat! This NYer thinks she's the best!n/t
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:40 AM
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15. I don't know which of her articles in past couple years
I like best! She is great!

She should put them all in a book in chronological order for us to read one after the other!

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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:47 PM
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17. When are we going to see the indictments?! Its been too quiet.
/*
"Joe Wilson stood up in front of God and everybody and said they didn’t just hype the intelligence, they lied."
*/

They lied again and agian and they are still lying.

And where the hell has that wretched fat stinking piece of crap Rove been lately?
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