Clintons' Hobnobbing With GOP Calculated

[DemsUnite]

One Clinton jets to Alaska and Iraq with Republicans, and enthusiastically sponsors legislation with GOP lawmakers who impeached her husband. The other plays golf with former President Bush and accepts assignments from the current one.

All this bipartisan snuggling by Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and former President Clinton has some Democrats and Republicans questioning their motives.

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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1067932&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

[bemildred]

1. This is news? This is LBN? nt

[FlemingsGhost]

2. Wrong forum?

Nice handle, DemsUnite. Used to use it myself ...

[Inland]

3. Hm....to win elections and get things done, maybe? DAMN THEM!

The only person I'll ever vote for is somebody who hasn't done anything to win support.

[Placebo]

4. I trust the Clintons to do what's best.

:loveya: BILL & HILLARY :loveya:

[seemslikeadream]

5. Such very very odd behavior

:shrug:

[FlemingsGhost]

6. Clintons = DLC. ... That's all I need to know. (n/t)

Flem.

[UpInArms]

8. ....

:toast:

[Placebo]

22. And people say Bush is too simplistic & two-dimensionally minded.

:eyes:

[FlemingsGhost]

27. Many more claim it's not them who are steeped in denial (n/t)

Flem.

[KoKo]

7. The Clinton's PR Machine is heavily at work in this puff piece.

:puffpiece: Us Lefties are getting under the skin of the DLC. Time for Bill and Hillary to do some explaining for the "company they keep."

It's kind of disheartening for us Democrats who supported them against the vilest of Repug attacks to watch this stuff going on. And, it does answer why they didn't fight harder over what happened in Florida in 2000.

[Nightwing]

11. Gore ran away from Clinton for Gods sake

Don't be like the cons who use Clinton as their excuse for EVERYTHING! Gore made it clear he wanted nothing to do with Bill during the 2000 race so why would he want him involved in the recount??

[KoKo]

24. Given "Monica" of course he didn't invoke Clinton..BUT...Clinton was

the Pentultimate Politician and his DUTY WAS TO SUPPORT GORE...he didn't and the rest is history. :shrug:

[Kelvin Mace]

9. More of the same from our favorite Vichy Democrats

Never were "liberal", never will be.

Consumate politicians who do, or say, whatever it takes to get elected.

[glitch]

10. Perhaps he is thinking longterm - when the repukes implode - and they will

he and Hillary and the DLC will take over the Republican Party.
Mwhahahahahahaha!
I always said Clinton was the best Republican President since Teddy Roosevelt.

[Kelvin Mace]

28. But sadly, more conservative

than Richard Nixon.

[glitch]

34. Sadly indeed. nt

[hippiechick]

19. Ding Ding Ding !! Kelvin Mace gets a cookie !!

RIGHT ANSWER !!!!!

:applause: :applause:

It's not about 'compromising' or 'getting things done' ... it's about POWER. Both Bill and Hill are obsessed with it.

[dr.zoidberg]

31. Yes, god forbid cooperation.

Hey, why work with he other side? We wouldn't want thing actually getting done in D.C. now would we? It would also mean no bogeyman to blame for some people's problems either. But hey, let's stay the course. Sure the Dems are stuck in the '70s and the repubs are bashing their brains in, but we really don't need to change.

I swear this is becoming like parliamentarian politics, where every issue is a test of "party loyalty". To hell with that!

This only proves one thing: politics is stupid and it makes the people involved in and those interested in really stupid. Is anybody willing to take a step back and realize just how stupid all of piddling crap is? Anyone? Or am I all alone in this?

[bpilgrim]

12. it's all part of the HIDDEN plan, don't worry about it!

http://media.globalfreepress.com

peace

[FlemingsGhost]

13. I'd like to think Clinton is brandishing a "finger pistol" ...

But that looks like a "you the man" gesture.

[Rebellious Republican]

20. Hey George mine is this long, just ask Laura! N/T

:rofl:

[Patchuli]

23. I bet Bill was wishing

he could smack Junior in the head in that shot! heheheee

[anitar1]

14. The Clintons can go straight to hell, as far as I am concerned.

Their day is over. I don't know anyone who would vote for her. Years ago I would have, not now.He is no prize either simply Mr Nafta.

[Copperred]

15. The Clintons are no saviors.

Look the Clintons are nothing more than some genuinely good kids who played by the rules and rose up the ladders they were given....nothing to be scoffed at.

However, they are not the American dream that they espouse to be and that everyone else can be too.

Yes they came from nothing, but they served in the service of power....always....in a way that allowed them to give the appearance of caring. I'm not say they are completely bad, they do have a good heart, but in every dysfunctional family there is an enabler...and the heads of the Dems have very much become that......this is all in the family.

They were not ever....repeat....EVER looking to upset the tables.

The fact that Bill was a Rhodes alone should make that clear.

[anitar1]

16. I do not know the Clintons personally or intimately,

so cannot Say what is in their hearts and minds. But I am sure it is not about all of us.Lay down with dogs and get up with fleas , as the saying goes.

[salib]

17. We really need to get over the HERO WORSHIP

It is one of the worst things that can happen to those deeply concerned about politics. Statements like: "I trust the Clintons to do what's best", "Hm....to win elections and get things done, maybe? DAMN THEM!", etc., show us to be simply following the charismatic Leader, believing in whatever the Leader says, does, etc.

Pathetic. Frightening.

[KoKo]

25. He wasn't "perfect" and he had "Terrible Flaws" but America under him...

was NOT the HELL ON EARTH IT IS UNDER BUSH!!!.

Now....some could argue he set us UP for BUSH II and his constant "chatting up of Poppy" is seen as "pandering."

Maybe all the Rot since the Kennedy Assasination is finally coming out...and it is time for the "ghosts of our misguided, trumped up, Foreign Policy to Finally Be Outed?

Or, it's something else...

[WI_DEM]

18. The Clinton's believe in the theory of "Triangularization"

which the pathetic Dickhead Morris came up with--to co-opt GOP ideas and themes. If we get the Clinton's it will only be GOP-lite. We need real change, not simply a "kinder, gentler version of W."

[KoKo]

26. True...Real Change....It's kind of important for what seems to be a "small

Majority" of us. :shrug:

[creeksneakers2]

21. Another psychic journalist

who can telepathically read lists of sinister motives coming from the minds of the Clintons.

Bill Clinton was a Yale Law School graduate who could have made himself very rich in a very short time. He chose to go home to Arkansas, and work for next to nothing to help people. So, Bill isn't about the money.

Being governor of Arkansas was far from the most powerful position he could have achieved. So, Bill wasn't all about power.

Bill may get carried away with his sexual desires, but he had crowds of women to pick from and chose the one who wasn't beautiful but was very intelligent. So, Bill's not all about the sex.

I can't think of anything sinister the Clintons have done at all, other than Bill lying when he got himself in a jam.

I'm not sure, but I think that Ron Fournier, the author of this article, is a RW propagandist. I've watched ABC lately and they have a definite strategy of trying to compete with Faux by being just as or even more dishonest.

I'd like the next psychic journalist to read the sinister motives of ABC and Ron Fournier.

[BayCityProgressive]

29. Wow more Clinton bashing

Not surprising here. The only Democrat who has managed to get elected since the 70's and did it TWICE but nothing but hate from the base. Nice.

[bpilgrim]

32. he's EARNED it

lonely at the top, eh

peace

[KoKo]

33. Very lonely at the "top."

Where's the top??

:hi: b.pilgrim.

[bpilgrim]

36. rise to the top

surface at the bottom ;->

:hi: KoKo01

peace

[Dirk39]

37. Hello from Germany,

did you ever watch the 1987 US-documentary "Mena Connection"? This was made long before he became the presidential candidate for the so-called Democrats.

"work for next to nothing to help people"

I guess, Clinton's friendship with the Bush-Clan goes back to Clinton and Bush's father being involved in the drug-smuggling for Iran-Contra during the 80ies. And Clinton's money for his election came from this crime. And the Bush-Clan knows that Clinton will never ever talk about this or offend them, 'cause they know about his role in Arkansas. It's not just that Clinton did everything in Arkansah but to help the people, it's far worse.
Clintons' Hobnobbing With GOP isn't Calculated. The Clintons know very well that when the criminal Bush-gang will be brought to justice, it's the end of the Clintons, too. This is one of the dirtiest chapters in the history of the USA.
Clinton was a no-one, rather known for being corrupt and incompetent. He has turned Arkansas into a garbage dump. The way he acted after these teenagers were murdered in Arkansas stinks to heaven.

And then, all of a sudden, he was part of the Bilderburgers and two years later he became the presidential candidate for the "Democrats".
One more time the American Dream became reality, and turned out to be a very pragmatic nightmare.
Just my two cents from Germany,
Dirk

[Dover]

30. Such calculated ambiguity does not help to create trust or a following.

So regardless of where their 'true' allegiance is, just the fact that their position can't be determined creates mistrust or wariness.
By trying to be cameleon-like, and all things to all people, they accomplish the opposite.

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From the article:


Liberal leaders fault the Clinton strategy, arguing that voters need to see stark differences between Democrats and Republicans, particularly on Iraq. Some say voters are more skeptical about Sen. Clinton's authenticity than her ideology.

"I don't want to bash Bill and Hillary, because they're friends of mine, but I do have a difference of opinion about how to take back the House and the Senate," said Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, a presidential candidate in 2004.

[drduffy]

35. democrats and republicans are irrelevant

it is the powers behind that make the moves. Perhaps Bilderbergers. Perhaps some others. But they call the shots. A republican this time. Perhaps next time a democrat. Keep the populace interested. Keep them controlled. Keeped them diverted. Keep the money pouring into the coffers of the corporations. Keep the CONTROL. We chattle are simply that. Go ahead and maintain self-supporting illusions. Freedom, Justice.

If any seriously think it is any other way.... they're seriously naive.