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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 08:05 AM
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Ben Shapiro on Rush Limbaugh--Mentions DU
I don't know what to make of this, but here it is. It wasn't hard to detect the glee last week when the National Enquirer published allegations that Rush Limbaugh was addicted to prescription painkillers. Al Franken, liberal un-funnyman, sneered that if the allegations were true, he was "looking forward to the perp walk." The ultra-liberal Web site DemocraticUnderground.com smirked, "Yup, if the rumors are true, Rush Limbaugh is a big fat junkie." Tony Norman, columnist for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, wrote that Limbaugh was "a mere notch or two above a low-rent crack addict."

Shapiro goes on to talk about how being addicted to prescription drugs is not at all the same as being addicted to recreational drugs --> http://www.townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/bs20031008.shtml

But what strikes me is it seems like we (posters at "Democratic Underground" are being held up as the mean spirited side of Liberalism. I know it's a fine line between being tough and being mean spirited, and certainly I don't favor any Alan Colmes style weakness on the issues.

I guess part of the "problem" is that we are an open discussion forum; anybody can saw whatever they want largely without consequence. In those circumstances, it's easy enough for lazy writers to find something that fits what they want to say about Liberals or Democrats, while ignoring the fact that dozens of competing views are presented as well.

The day the Rush Limbaugh story broke, there were a lot of people crowing about his problems. There were others who felt some sympathy for him as a fellow human being. There were those who didn't care one way or another about him personally, but hoped this would lead to a more honest debate on the criminilization of drugs. But it's easy enough for Shapiro or anybody to pull out one argument they don't like and use it.

Anyway for further commentary on the Shapiro piece --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

Bryant
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 08:11 AM
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1. Is that how they intend to defend Rush....
"poor baby, he's just addicted to his prescription drugs."
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 08:14 AM
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2. Another source about this ..
is www.conwebwatch.com . The newest link is how the conservative news web sites are treating this. It's a good read.
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soupkitchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 08:14 AM
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3. "being addicted to prescription drugs is not the same as being addicited
to recreational drugs,"
Well it is, Ben Shapiro, iF you don't have a prescription. And if you're buying your drugs on the black market.
After all, some people have prescriptions for morphine. That doesn't make unprscriped morphine users addicted to a prescription drug.
Ah, but sophistry, the art of the false argument, is the the con part of the conservative movement.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 08:15 AM
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4. He sees what he wants to see...
...and with Rush, he wanted to see sneering, gloating, smirking lllllliber-al elitists.

They throw stones, then call for you to be arrested for peeping and vandalism when they discover that they, too, live in a glass house.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 08:17 AM
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5. Hey, I've said this on here before.
If we sink to their level and use their tactics then we become them, and I most definately do not want to be Rush Limbaugh. I would rather die financially ruined than morally bankrupt.

Our collective reaction to Rush and his addiction was horribly unseemly. We now see how they will start using it against us.
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Evil_Dewers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 08:19 AM
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6. An ex-dittohead sends Flush an e-mail
I saw this on another site yesterday. Not all dittoheads are mindless sheep:

----- Original Message -----
From: XXXXXXXX@XXX.XXX
To: rush@eibnet.com, rprivate@eib.net
Sent: 10/6/2003 4:44:21 PM
Subject: Can't trust you until you come clean.



When addicts say "trust me," they are lying. I cannot listen to you anymore until you come clean about your drug abuse. Your listeners don't really give a damn about your battle with ESPN. That's just your distraction. The elephant in the middle of the room that you and the heavily call-screened dittoheads keep ignoring is named "DRUGS." If you cannot talk about it (drugs) because of "legal troubles," then you should not be on the air at all right now, because you really have no credibility. Please go to a real drug rehabilitation clinic (the kind that takes weeks to recuperate) if you need to. A 24 hour "quick fix" rehab does not resolve your problems since your burning desire for drugs is still there. How do I and the other listeners know that you weren't high today when you did your show? Your refusal to deny the drug abuse and illegal purchases of narcotics belies the fact that YOU ARE a drug abuser who bought thousands of narcotics illegally. I am utterly disappointed in you, but you can still redeem yourself.

Look, you have so many millions of dollars that you could not spend it all in many lifetimes. If you need to quit for awhile and get help--please do it. You've damaged your body horribly and you need to stop it now or die.

Until then, I guess I'll have to listen to that altar boy Hannity or "outrage of the day" O'Reilly.

Sincerely,

XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, ex-dittohead





Note: Lush Rimshot's private e-mail (rprivate@eib.net) has been disconnected. This is the e-mail address he used to faciliate his drug buys.
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CounterCoulter Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 03:31 PM
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7. Addiction is a malleable term?
Edited on Wed Oct-08-03 03:32 PM by CounterCoulter
I see, coke is recreational but Rush got addicted by taking the oxycotin prescribed to cure hearing loss...caused by taking oxycotin. LOL. Poor Rush. He's not to blame, its the drug companies and the media.

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. If you're reading Rush, I hope you have a SUPER day, and just know that right now, blacks, gays and jews are roaming free all over this country and LOVING IT. And they're coming for your daughters (or sons, as the case may be)!!!!
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