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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:45 PM
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German Politician: Bush Should Be "Shot"
Germany 09.09.2005
German Politician: Bush Should Be "Shot"



A German conservative politician on Thursday drew calls for his resignation by saying US President George W. Bush should be "shot" for his handling of Hurricane

Katrina. Andreas Renner, the state minister for social affairs in Baden-Wuerttemberg state, told reporters on Wednesday: "He deserves to be shot," according to a local newspaper published Thursday. It sparked outrage in Germany, where several politicians campaigning for national elections on September 18 have criticized Washington's response to the catastrophe, but none have gone so far. The state chapter of Social Democrats called for Renner's resignation while his own Christian Democrats, who are expected to win the election, also criticized his remarks. Renner said Thursday that he had meant Bush should be "shot down in the political sense. I withdraw what I said with regret." It is not the first time that a politician has landed in hot water over a remark against Bush in the throes of a national election campaign. In 2002, the Social Democrats' federal justice minister Herta Daeubler-Gmelin was forced to quit after she compared the US pesident to Nazi leader Adolf Hitler. Schröder sacked her days before the election.


http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1705669,00.html

Not that I often agree with conservative politicians....


Hello from Germany,
Dirk
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:49 PM
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1. Thank you Dirk
It means everything to us that you guys care and you know this is against our wills!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:49 PM
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2. Andreas Renner is a wise man, despite his conservatism!
Thanks, Dirk39!
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:49 PM
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3. let's see what the SS does about this.
nt
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:49 PM
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4. IIRC he said "shot down", which could be interpreted metaphorically
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:37 PM
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17. You may be correct:
Bush Must Be 'Shot Down'

Andreas Renner, Social Minister in Germany's southern state of Baden-Wuertemberg has it right. During a visit to a local company on Tuesday, the conservative German minister said U.S. President George W. Bush should be "shot down" for his handling of the crisis in hurricane-struck New Orleans. <snip>

http://news.baou.com/main.php?action=recent&rid=20488

In English, that just means teaching somebody a lesson ...
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:50 PM
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5. Well if Robertson can get away with it without a scratch...
so should that guy.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:52 PM
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6. I am against shooting or harming Chimpy.
I would like to see him taken down by the laws he breaks.
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:04 PM
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9. O.K.
I would like to see him taken down by the levee he breaks.

According to the second ammendment, wouldn't it be not just legal but an obligation for U.S. citizens to take out their guns, bring in some guillotines, march to Washington, surround the White House and demand Bush to come out (metaphorical!)...

Or is there anything wrong with my understanding of the U.S. constitution?

Dirk
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 09:48 PM
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16. Yeah. Shooting is too good for him. n/t
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:59 PM
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7. The Dixie Chicks Dick Durbib
and from Germany Andreas Renner...all had to eat crow and apologize
to the Bsuh Crime Family wow !! At least Galloway had the guts to stand behind his truthful allegations...
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:03 PM
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8. Das ist so treu, Herr Renner.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:30 PM
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10. don't you think he means shot only after being tried and convicted?
After all the German war criminals were hung. But they were tried first -- by self righteous (in retrospect) winners of the war.

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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:58 PM
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11. ALL the German war criminals...
I'd rather say SOME and the most important ones were whether hung nor even tried. After F.D.R. died, the denacification of Germany was over and even before, it was sabotaged. There was only a minority of liberals within the OSS, who really supported F.D.R. and the denacification.
The real Nuremberg Trial did never happen, although even F.D.R. considered these to be more important than the ones that did happen.
If all the war criminals in Germany would have been hung and brought to justice, Bush wouldn't be the president of the U.S.A.

At least history told me so...

Dirk
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 03:22 AM
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12. That's right -- his grand father was really a war criminal
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:51 AM
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13. Well hello Germany, what a warm welcome. n/t
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:00 AM
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14. Impeach.....
Renner should not have to resign!! What the hell, thats total bullshit. This is what I mean, the same thing would happen if someone spoke out about Hitler. But, instead of shooting, hanging or torturering people that force them to resign their positions. Just as Herta was FORCED out because of the same commit I just made...
Its a free thinking society or has that been completly obscured?

FUCK BUSH, FUCK THE GOP!!! Just as Rome fell, they will too. And as its looking its not going to be much longer...
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myrmenki Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 01:03 PM
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15. Yes, better shoot the translators
and misinterpreters. (Only joking.)

Renner said Bush "gehört abgeschossen". Guess what my German-English dictionary tells me?

It means: Bush "ought to be ousted".

Now the word "abgeschossen" literally means "shot off". But imagine Renner had said: Bush "gehört gefeuert", which literally translates as "ought to be fired"? And some idiot came along and said: Renner wants Bush to be burnt at the stake?

Whoever does the misinterpreting inside Germany must be trying to do a little election campaign. You really have to be completely brain dead or to not know any German to misunderstand what he said. And it's not even some dialect he used, but the stuff you find in the dictionary!

But nevertheless it's interesting to see that a member of the CDU, who usually suck up to Bush, would like to see his impeachment. It's nice, actually.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 12:08 PM
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18. Let the NRA tell the Germans they cannot shoot without a permit!
Indeed shooting a US conservative leader. Why, that's almost unprecedented in modern times.
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