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MikeDuffy Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:57 AM
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Palast: What's Left? Galloway vs Hitchens; Progressives vs Ourselves
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 10:59 AM by MikeDuffy
Criticism of Galloway -- justified? (Palast reports for the Observer/BBC Newsnight in UK.)

"Friends and comrades, this is not about George Galloway. He's just another self-promoting fart. Six months from now, even his smell will be gone."

"We can't define ourselves as the "anti-Bush", blindly supporting those he opposes, and thereby letting the nitwit Napoleon in the White House pick our enemies for us. Nor can our revulsion for Bush's horrors throw us into the arms of swamp-things like George Galloway."

"I'll be damned if I'll cheer some rich white Brit-hole who brings joy to those who killed him "

BTW Galloway/Hitchens debate 7:00 PM EST available streaming via www.kpftx.org or www.thejourneyradio.org

link: http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=457&row=0
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:06 AM
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1. I personally am not a fan of Galloway
but must admit to being pleasantly suprised at Greg Palast calling him out
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:39 AM
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11. ------------- --------- -------- --------- --------- > MP3
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:49 AM
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12. I'm not a fan either. Anyone who was Pals with a geno cider is no hero
of mine.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:07 AM
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2. Not Palasts best piece.
While Galloway should be chided for some of his comments and should be more transparent about the charity issue, Palast seems to ignore a very important fact, that George Galloway, because of his outspoken opposition to imperialist policies is the target of a constant barrage of lies and smears from the right.

He is constantly on the defensive, and people who are constantly on the defensive tend to act suspiciously. This is a very common phenomenom on the left, which is constantly victimized by the right.

For all I know Galloway may be a swamp thing, depending on the truth behind the charity accusations, but I dont think the facts we have now support that line.

And its not like Galloway is running for office. As long as the speeches he makes are good factual progressive arguments, we should support his tour regardless of whether or not he has a flawed charecter.
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Mary Hinge Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:45 AM
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3. agreed, he is self interested and uses the issues to his advantage
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:54 AM
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4. I wouldnt go that far.
Palast is a good journalist.

I just think in this particular case he is presenting a biased view.

But it is extremely difficult to get an unbiased view of Galloway, which is a result of both his brashness and the rights lies.
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Mary Hinge Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 12:01 PM
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5. sorry, I mean't Galloway, I was trying to reply to the previous post
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 12:03 PM
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6. who cares about an individual's "self-interest" when he has the cojones
to speak truth to power? When NO ONE in THIS country would do it?
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Mary Hinge Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 12:04 PM
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7. true, he's a crook (imo) but he's a crook who speaks the truth...
I'll give him that
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 12:09 PM
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8. How is Galloway a crook? n/t
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 12:15 PM
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9. Oh, well then I disagree even more strongly.
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 12:17 PM by K-W
The idea that any outspoken anti-imperialist is self interested is rediculous.

Just ask Cristopher Hitchens, someone skilled in rhetoric can make ALOT more money serving power than challenging it.

Galloway has consistantly made choices that have hurt his self interests thoughout his career.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:08 AM
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13. I like the point he made that nobody but himself gets to choose who
his friends or enemies are. That Saddam was bad. And no amount of hating Bush is going to make a friend of Saddam's an okay pal. That he chooses himself the people he is against.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:10 AM
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10. God bless Galloway. May he/she keep him safe and FRONT & CENTER!
I have absolutely no qualms about this great man.
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evworldeditor Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:17 PM
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14. Mr. Galloway Goes To Washington
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 07:17 PM by evworldeditor
The man does know how to defend himself and nail the hypocrites out to smear him.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8866.htm
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