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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 01:25 PM
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The Fears of White People (MUST read; Zmag)
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=30&ItemID=8698

The Fears of White People
by Robert Jensen

September 08, 2005
 

 
The first, and perhaps most crucial, fear is that of facing the fact that some of what we white people have is unearned. It's a truism that we don't really make it on our own; we all have plenty of help to achieve whatever we achieve. That means that some of what we have is the product of the work of others, distributed unevenly across society, over which we may have little or no control individually. No matter how hard we work or how smart we are, we all know -- when we are honest with ourselves -- that we did not get where we are by merit alone. And many white people are afraid of that fact.
 
A second fear is crasser: White people's fear of losing what we have -- literally the fear of losing things we own if at some point the economic, political, and social systems in which we live become more just and equitable. That fear is not completely irrational; if white privilege -- along with the other kinds of privilege many of us have living in the middle class and above in an imperialist country that dominates much of the rest of the world -- were to evaporate, the distribution of resources in the United States and in the world would change, and that would be a good thing. We would have less. That redistribution of wealth would be fairer and more just. But in a world in which people have become used to affluence and material comfort, that possibility can be scary.
 
A third fear involves a slightly different scenario -- a world in which non-white people might someday gain the kind of power over whites that whites have long monopolized. One hears this constantly in the conversation about immigration, the lingering fear that somehow "they" (meaning not just Mexican-Americans and Latinos more generally, but any non-white immigrants) are going to keep moving to this country and at some point become the majority demographically. Even though whites likely can maintain a disproportionate share of wealth, those numbers will eventually translate into political, economic, and cultural power. And then what? Many whites fear that the result won't be a system that is more just, but a system in which white people become the minority and could be treated as whites have long treated non-whites. This is perhaps the deepest fear that lives in the heart of whiteness. It is not really a fear of non-white people. It's a fear of the depravity that lives in our own hearts: Are non-white people capable of doing to us the barbaric things we have done to them?
 
A final fear has probably always haunted white people but has become more powerful since the society has formally rejected overt racism: The fear of being seen, and seen-through, by non-white people. Virtually every white person I know, including white people fighting for racial justice and including myself, carries some level of racism in our minds and hearts and bodies. In our heads, we can pretend to eliminate it, but most of us know it is there. And because we are all supposed to be appropriately anti-racist, we carry that lingering racism with a new kind of fear: What if non-white people look at us and can see it? What if they can see through us? What if they can look past our anti-racist vocabulary and sense that we still don't really know how to treat them as equals? What if they know about us what we don't dare know about ourselves? What if they can see what we can't even voice?
 
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 01:40 PM
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1. Sounds like that classic passage from "Cry The Beloved Country". . .
(snip)
"But when a black man gets power, when he gets money, he is a great man if he is not corrupted. I have seen it often. He seeks power and money to put right what is wrong, and when he gets them, why, he enjoys the power and the money.

Now he can gratify his lusts, now he can arrange ways to get white man's liquor. I see only one hope for our country, and that is when white men and black men, desiring neither power nor money, but desiring only the good of their country, come together to work for it.

I have one great fear in my heart, that one day when they are turned to loving, they will find we are turned to hating."
(snip)

Not that much difference between South Africa and the USA in that regard.

:shrug:

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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 01:43 PM
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2. John Hersey wrote of such things in White Lotus.
Not black people but of China. The book is pretty old by now. We all have to face the fact that at about 5% of the world we use about all that is around to use. Just how long could our military keep the world out if they made plans to take over? Right now it looks like we are Bering sold out to China. Just who will have a job at the rates corp. Am. is cutting every thing down in labor pay and not what they are selling goods for? I am sure corp are going to grab all they can before people really get mad. Something is going on for sure. I think it will be slow. Like 4 million more are poor than when Bush came in.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 01:44 PM
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3. I agree with most of what you say
and I think most of us have some level of racism in our hearts, or at the very least classism. Or something I call "brainism" where you just can't identify with people (for example colleagues) who aren't very bright. I personally don't worry too much about being "found out" because I know myself pretty well and I also know that all humans discriminate, minority and majority. The trick is to constantly work to if not eliminate that propensity, to at least recognize it and look at it and refuse to ACT upon it.

I will add another fear and I think it might be biological. White people are in the minority in this world and genetically we would cease to exist in a few short generations if we intermarried with darker races. While to me, this is probably a good thing because if it gets any hotter on earth and we lose any more ozone, white folks will die out from skin cancers. We need more color and vigor in the race. But this concept troubles a whole lotta people so they put on white robes and set fire to things.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:22 AM
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9. I think you're on to something there.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 02:20 PM
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4. Good Post !
This should be posted in General Discussion. I'm sure it will be a "hot thread" and very helpful to some people.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 02:49 PM
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5. Jaysunb...go ahead and cross-post it there if you like
I'm trying to make myself scarce in the "cybersandbox" b/c am under tremendous deadline pressure with work...but I'd love to see discussion of these things happen.

I think it's important...

There's been some discussion of this topic going on in the thread started by SeattleGirl here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4752460
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 04:28 PM
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6. I think it is great that Mericans are finally discussing myths about their
creation & racism.

Look forward to reading.
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KenCarson Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 04:58 PM
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7. i agree with most of it except this line, which is naive
"That redistribution of wealth would be fairer and more just"


what power that is great enough to assume power is going to be immune from the corrupting nature of power (that corruption is color blind- See Rice's Ferragamo's). so the redistribution would not be more fair, probably just as unfair, or more so, but with a different set of people calling the shots.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 10:49 AM
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11. maybe, maybe not
depends on your definition of power. if it's business as usual with a different colored face (e.g., rice, our very own imelda) then i see your point. of course had it not been for centuries of economic favors afforded white people, the distribution of wealth would have been more fair and just here and elsewhere.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:22 AM
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8. Thanks for posting n/t
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 05:56 PM
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10. C'mon kidlinks
We need some SERIOUS dicussion on this shit. It's about raising collective consciousness for ALL OF US.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 10:50 AM
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12. ahem
don't forget about that superglue :hide:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 03:57 PM
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13. A great piece by Robert Jensen
and one that must also be read in the context of American imperialism, including the war in Iraq.
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callady Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 10:00 PM
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14. Indeed
Thought you might be interested in this Indiana Green

The Friendly Face of US Imperialism

USAID and Haiti

By SASHA KRAMER

The United States International Development Agency (USAID) emerged as an arm of US foreign policy following the Second World War. The Agency was developed to provide foreign relief and development assistance in accordance with US policy objectives. According to the USAID website (www.usaid.gov) the organization operates under the following mandate.

<snip>

The fundamental problem with USAID's stated objectives is that it is not in the national interests of the US government to promote self sufficiency in developing countries. US economic interests are fed by foreign dependency on US imports and loans. Political interests are served by maintaining an economic stranglehold on foreign governments, and many a strategic alliance has been forged out of economic necessity. Among USAID's operating tenets are sustainability and local capacity building, noble goals but highly dependent on how these tenets are defined and the manner in which they are implemented. Sustainability of what, and which local capacities are being supported? Implementation is primarily shaped by another of USAID's governing tenets, selectivity, the allocation of resources based on foreign policy interests.

<snip>

This report presents a picture of US aid that is simultaneously disturbing and refreshingly honest. The fact that the "fruits of these efforts" are described as the camps' potential to de-legitimize protest as opposed to their success in providing basic services to the community, speaks volumes to USAID's primary motivations, motivations which will shape long term outcomes. USAID is an arm of the US State Department reporting directly to Condoleezza Rice and their stated objective is to use aid to pursue outcomes desired by the State Department. In this case the State Department is eager to for the upcoming elections to appear legitimate as evident in Condoleezza Rice's recent visit to Haiti in which she stressed the importance of timeliness and legitimacy.

<snip>

USAID uses a different tactic for pacifying the poor in Haiti who have been rightfully outraged by the destruction of their democracy, rise in the cost of living and ongoing government-sponsored repression. Understanding the level of desperation in these communities, short term provision of services is used as a way to draw people away from protesting these conditions with a warm meal. As people are fed they can be quietly indoctrinated with the notion that these camps provide an alternative to the "violence" of Lavalas. The provision of entertainment and meals may provide a temporary alleviation of suffering but they do nothing to address the underlying causes of that suffering which are deeply entangled in with the disruption of Haiti's democracy in 2004. A full stomach will not end the police killings, it will not free the political prisoners and it will not result in the reestablishment of social programs in Haiti; but it may give a hungry person a moment of peace. Full stomachs and soccer are excellent tools for temporarily easing suffering to pacify protest and give the country the appearance of calm in the run up to the elections but they are not a sustainable solution to the many problems that prevent these elections from being free and fair, nor will they promote a democracy that truly represents that Haitian people. The long term implications of installing an illegitimate government could far outweigh the short term benefits enjoyed by those attending the camps.

http://www.counterpunch.org/kramer10142005.html
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:09 PM
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15. It is raw Amerikkkan racism
in action that its citizens have not converged on their gub'mint in sufficient numbers to demand the atrocity in Iraq cease IMMEDIATELY.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:29 PM
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16. Stating "non-white" is a racist way to look at people of color. nt
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