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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 04:41 PM
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Another unbelievable post from a Bush tool in Iraq
Edited on Thu Oct-09-03 04:43 PM by Barrett808
This is another email from a high-school friend of a coworker, who was involved with training the new Iraqi army. More delusional optimism.

See the earlier post here:

Help me debunk this Bush tool's take on Kay's report
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=14639

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Thanks for your note. You can't imagine how great it is to hear from friends at home.

I think the biggest disconnect between the situation on the ground here and the impression most people have from the media is that we see every day so much that is increasingly normal -- at the same time that there are real and serious (but not, I think, growing) problems.  For those of us who work here, there is some real element of physical danger -- my  Spanish general deputy spent most of today on the grim task of arranging to send home the body of the Spanish sergeant who was gunned down as he walked to work this morning,.  Today we also lost a US soldier, several Iraqi policemen and a ministry of education official as well.  Those deaths are hard to take and inevitably the knowledge that there are people out there consciously trying to kill American and other coalition officials and soldiers and Iraqis who are working with us to improve things certainly affects how we behave.  But even those deaths have to be put in the context of 160,000 foreign troops in the country, a couple thousand patrols every day,  literally tens of thousands of military and civilian convoys, and several hundred thousand Iraqi public employees at work.

For ordinary Iraqis, life is quite normal, by the standards of this part of the world.  To be sure, there are real problems -- unemployment is very high.  Crime is somewhat above pre-war levels (if you don't count Saddam's murders or discount for his emptying the jails a year ago), corruption is widespread.  There is a potential for ethnic violence.  Basic industry and infrastructure are a mess -- because of a generation of under investment and inadequate maintenance, not war damage, which was minimal.

But all those real problems exist in the context of real improvement.  Electric power is above pre-war levels and in many areas, it is on almost all the time.  Fuel stocks (propane for cooking, diesel for generators and vehicles, kerosene for heating -- yes, that will be a problem in a couple months) are growing and gas lines are short.  The stores are full of goods.  The schools are open for the fall term.  (In Diwaniya to the south, where I was at lunchtime day before yesterday, the sidewalks were full of boys and girls in school uniform coming home for lunch.)  University exams were given over the summer on schedule.  People feel secure enough, and some at least have enough mmoney to spend, that Bremer has agreed to the restaurant owners'sassociation's plea to extend the curfew from 11pm to 1 am.  Inflation is very modest.  Most of the rail system is functioning, for both freight and passengers.  Bus service, including intercity, is working.  Medical services, while bad by Western standards, are improving and better than before the war.  The phone system is beginning to come back.  Garbage is collected regularly throughout Baghdad.  Most courts are functioning (interestingly the regular courts were not allowed to handle sensitive cases, and so were relatively non-political, so it has been possible to get them going again on a reasonably good basis).  More and more Iraqis are taking on routine security jobs -- cops on patrol, guards at key buildings and facilities, border controls -- allowing the US troops (and those from the other 30-odd countries with troops here) both to focus on strictly military tasks and to get out of the tricky business of large scale direct encounters with the locals.  Most cities have local councils, mostly based on some form of elections (admittedly usually indirect).  I am, of course, particularly proud of the first battalion of the New Iraqi Army, which has been my special project.  (The photo shows them on parade at their graduation ceremony last weekend.)

I am, as the soldiers say, "short."  That is I can taste the snack on the plane out to Amman -- which, inshallah, I will take on 10 or 11 Nov.  And there have been plenty of frustrations and disappointments.  But I am very, very happy to have had the chance to do this, and I will greatly miss -- not just the excitement and all the neat stuff I've gotten to do -- but the chance to work with good people, both Iraqis and foreigners, on something very important.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 04:46 PM
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1. Life in Irag is normal now
High unemployment, lots of dead people , Rape's, Murder's, Sickness and Theft everythings Back to Normal, From a Guy who has only been there a Couple of Months..
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 04:48 PM
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2. This was my reply to my coworker
God, these guys live is some sort of delusional parallel universe. You want the real scoop? Go visit Riverbend’s blog: “Baghdad Burning” at http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com.

The illegal invasion and occupation is a catastrophe that will haunt us for generations. When the Turkish troops are brought in, as an act of utter desperation by the PNAC mafia, I expect another bout of genocide against the Kurds – what’s this, the third or fourth time we’ve betrayed them? When the Shia unleash their thousands of suicide bombers against our forces we’ll see a slaughter on a scale that’s been hitherto unthinkable.

“Life is quite normal”? I’m speechless. Is he living in the Republican Guard palace with Bremer? Did he somehow manage to miss the riots of the last several days? How many murderous US raids has he witnessed? Has he had his belongings confiscated by US troops, or his family disappeared? This is all “normal”, perhaps by the standards of occupied Palestine.

“Neat stuff”? Unbelievable. This kind of neo-imperial rhetoric is going to be the end of the US.

Bah.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 04:50 PM
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3. I don't buy it
Ask that co-worker about his "high school friend" a bit. You know, just casually -- what he looks like, what classes he took, when the last time he saw him was, that kind of stuff... I betcha anything this is a chain mail that starts in some republican operative's office. Then Pukes show them to the opposition as their "high school friend's" letters.

There are simply too many accounts so utterly opposite of his, from soldiers and their families, that I simply don't buy it.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 04:52 PM
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4. I believe he is who he says he is
I've spoken with my coworker at length, and I'm satisfied the email is real. Which doesn't make it any less delusional.
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bluefire2000 Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 04:54 PM
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5. sounds fake to me...
Has that been discussed? Has anyone checked snopes.com? I'll have a look. But really, it sounds like part of Bush's PR campaing to 'get out the good press'.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 05:00 PM
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6. No, really -- this is authentic
I've just removed the names because it's basically private email correspondence.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 05:07 PM
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7. When Talking to one of My co-workers about Irag he asked
Don't we have some spare Nuke's we could use?
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DifferentStrokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 08:13 AM
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8. Somebody else got the email
from a "friend of a coworker". Couldn't be profesionally written by a political hack, oh, no.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php
Anyone else getting e-mails like this?

I'd keep an eye on the GD forum for regular readings of this mysterious email--from a friend of a coworker.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 09:26 AM
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9. Can you post the link?
Because I really, really, believe this is authentic.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 09:46 AM
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10. ugh
"For ordinary Iraqis, life is quite normal, by the standards of this part of the world."

I hate that sort of colonial arrogance.

"this part of the world?"

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