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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:30 PM
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Jim Rarey: The Murder of David Kelly
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/101403_kelly_1.html

MEDIUM RARE by Jim Rarey

October 14, 2003

THE MURDER OF DAVID KELLY

Part one of two

<...While the Hutton inquiry appears set to declare Kelly's death a suicide and the national media are already treating it as a given, there are numerous red flags raised in the testimony and evidence at the inquiry itself. >

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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:14 PM
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1. unfortunately, not one bit of this is surprising. I assumed
that kelly was murdered, as a suicide was just tooooooo bloody convenient for the powers-that-be. from all that I heard, kelly was angry, not depressed, and angry people generally do not commit suicide.

May he rest in peace, and may whoever murdered him rest in hell.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:26 PM
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2. That's what I've always thought myself.

I never bought the suicide explanation. But then again I've been wearing a :tinfoilhat: for a while now.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:55 PM
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3. Jeez. That's awful.
I have to admit the thought crossed my mind. I also remember Blair was visiting in Tokyo, and some Japanese reporters asked him if he "had blood on his hands" after the news broke about Kelly.

Hmmmmm......who would have a motive for getting rid of Kelly?
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Mokito Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 05:51 AM
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4. Hint
Search among the 'B'
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 10:28 AM
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5. How Blair reacted
...You say, "I also remember Blair was visiting in Tokyo, and some Japanese reporters asked him if he "had blood on his hands" after the news broke about Kelly."

I am not sure that it was this question, or if it was when he first heard the news of Kelly's death, but I remember how his face went absolutely white. It was one of those non-scripted moments, a very human response. Only, the response said either "I'm guilty of something" or "I'm in fear for my life".

I'm guessing that Tony did not himself order the killing, rather, the shadow government on that side of the pond did it, possibly in collusion with our own shadow government. Secondary theory is that the BFEE did it, and Tony's white face was an indication that he just then realized who he was in bed with.

Will we ever know? Unfortunately, not bloody likely.
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 08:43 PM
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6. So, he cut his wrists across?
Edited on Sun Oct-19-03 08:44 PM by DrBB
Well, I mean, a molecular biologist isn't exactly an M.D. But still, this was a guy who specialized in knowing about weapons and how people die, yeah? And you don't get to molecular biology without taking some basic courses--anatomy and stuff, right? I mean, it's not all genes and amino acids from the get-go, is it?

Cuz here's the thing: slitting your wrists isn't a very good way to kill yourself in the first place, but if you are determined to do it that way, cutting across simply doesn't work. Blood--as yer average biochemist/molecular biologist/WMD expert knows--coagulates. Cutting across will leave you with a nasty scar, but it won't make you bleed to death. It's a common misconception, a form of ignorence that has saved many adolescent lives. But we're not talking about a spotty kid who got turned down for the Senior Prom, here. We're talking about, y'know, a Ph.D. in the life sciences, a specialist of some standing in the How-To-Kill-Millions business. How people actually die, what can actually kill 'em 'n' stuff. Could such a person really not know that you have to cut the long way?

If the commission concludes that this sideways cut actually contributed to his demise, then something is really screwy. You have to cut the long way, preferably right up to the elbow, and the traditional method involves lying in a tub of hot water to keep the red stuff flowing.

I'm not Sherlock Holmes but this one fact puts the whole incident in a very dubious light.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 06:41 PM
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7. where does it say the cut was across?
It says the ulnar, but not radial, artery, was severed. To me, that suggests the cut was lengthways, along the ulnar artery.
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:24 PM
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8. Here
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 09:25 PM by DrBB
The fact that the ulnar artery was severed, but not the radial artery, strongly suggests that the knife wound was inflicted drawing the blade from the inside of the wrist (the little finger side closest to the body) to the outside where the radial artery is located much closer to the surface of the skin than is the ulnar artery. For those familiar with first aid, the radial artery is the one used to determine the pulse rate.
 
Just hold your left arm out with the palm up and see how difficult it would be to slash across the wrist avoiding the radial artery while severing the ulnar artery. However, a second person situated to the left of Kelly who held or picked up the arm and slashed across the wrist would start on the inside of the wrist severing the ulnar artery first.


I've been looking for a reprint of the actual report, or a summary, but haven't found one yet.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:38 AM
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9. Since Kelly was part of the UN weapons inspection team at one point...
...in time, how much of a stretch would it be to think that Kelly could have been part of Valerie Plame's covert global network of WMD trackers? Counting Kelly, I think 15 microbiologists have died under less than ideal circumstances over the last 18 months.
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