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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:08 AM
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Monbiot on Bush & Blair's new buddy
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 07:47 AM by Thankfully_in_Britai
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1072313,00.html

Just one excuse remains, and it is a powerful one. Saddam Hussein was a brutal tyrant. While there was no legal argument for forcibly deposing him on the grounds of his abuse of human rights, there was a moral argument. It is one which our prime minister made repeatedly and forcefully. "The moral case against war has a moral answer: it is the moral case for removing Saddam," Tony Blair told the Labour party's spring conference in February. "Ridding the world of Saddam would be an act of humanity. It is leaving him there that is in truth inhumane." There is just one test of this sincerity, and that is the consistency with which his concern for human rights guides his foreign policy. If he cares so much about the welfare of foreigners that he is prepared to go to war on their behalf, we should expect to see this concern reflected in all his relations with the governments of other countries. We should expect him, for example, to do all he can to help the people of Uzbekistan.

There are over 6,000 political and religious prisoners in Uzbekistan. Every year, some of them are tortured to death. Sometimes the policemen or intelligence agents simply break their fingers, their ribs and then their skulls with hammers, or stab them with screwdrivers, or rip off bits of skin and flesh with pliers, or drive needles under their fingernails, or leave them standing for a fortnight, up to their knees in freezing water. Sometimes they are a little more inventive. The body of one prisoner was delivered to his relatives last year, with a curious red tidemark around the middle of his torso. He had been boiled to death.

But Uzbekistan is seen by the US government as a key western asset, as Saddam Hussein's Iraq once was. Since 1999, US special forces have been training Karimov's soldiers. In October 2001, he gave the United States permission to use Uzbekistan as an airbase for its war against the Taliban. The Taliban have now been overthrown, but the US has no intention of moving out. Uzbekistan is in the middle of central Asia's massive gas and oil fields. It is a nation for whose favours both Russia and China have been vying. Like Saddam Hussein's Iraq, it is a secular state fending off the forces of Islam.

So, far from seeking to isolate his regime, the US government has tripled its aid to Karimov. Last year, he received $500m (£300m), of which $79m went to the police and intelligence services, who are responsible for most of the torture. While the US claims that its engagement with Karimov will encourage him to respect human rights, like Saddam Hussein he recognises that the protection of the world's most powerful government permits him to do whatever he wants. Indeed, the US state department now plays a major role in excusing his crimes. There is little question that the power and longevity of Karimov's government has been enhanced by his special relationship with the United States. There is also little question that supporting him is a dangerous game.
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Melsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:45 AM
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1. Thanks for posting this
I read about Karimov a few months ago. I can't believe they are supporting him while taking the high horse about getting that big bad evil saddam out of power.

Here's an article from the Memory Hole on this, with pics of our wise and wonderful leaders shaking hands with this important ally in the war on terra. I guess torturing people to death doesn't count as terror.

http://www.thememoryhole.org/pol/us-and-uz.htm

P.S. the Memory Hole is an excellent site for DUers, check it out!
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Capt_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 01:40 PM
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2. Bump!
I want we-know-who to read this. ;-)
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 07:15 AM
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3. Never mind him!
I'm more interested in you-know-who's take on the tory leadership battle as that tends to be yet more proof that said posters arguments are a load of rubbish.

This article is for everyone really, and here's another.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/environment/story.jsp?story=457996
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