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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:04 AM
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Britney's Black Helicopter
Grreat piece....the blacklist shows how out of touch with pretty much EVERYONE in America the NRA and the gun rights crowd is.

I urge everyone to click through and look at the 19 pages of "enemies." Pretty much every organization of decent Americans is on the list as a "gun grabbing tyrant."

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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:08 AM
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1. Howard Dean has an "A" rating from these domestic terrorists
I will never vote for Howrd Dean.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:16 AM
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:28 AM
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4. To be fair
It seems more like the NRA is climbing on Howard Dean's bandwagon than the other way round...and despite the rating, LaPierre as much as said he was going to piss all over Dean any way if Dean was the Democratic nominee...
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:20 AM
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9. Yeah, c'mon.
We're not going to be single-issue lunkheads like the supporters of a certain party I might name (initials GOP), are we? Dean may very well be the nominee. Vote against him in the primaries if you want, but surely he'd be a huge improvement on Bush, even on the subject of guns!
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:44 AM
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8. Dean's position statement on gun laws...
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=policy_statement_civilrights_sensiblegunlaws

Vermont has one of the lowest homicide rates in the United States. During my 11 years as Governor, the highest number of murders in a single year was 25 and the lowest number was five. Over half of these were domestic assaults, and the majority were not committed with a firearm.

If you say “gun control” in Vermont or Wyoming, people think it means taking away their hunting rifle. If you say "gun control" in New York City or Los Angeles, people are relieved at the prospect of having Uzis or illegal handguns taken off the streets. They’re both right. That’s why I think Vermont ought to be able to have a different set of laws than California.

I believe the federal gun laws we have -- like the Brady Bill -- are important, and I would veto any attempt to repeal or gut them. The Assault Weapons Ban expires next year, and it should be renewed. Although President Bush has claimed he supports renewing it, he is talking out both sides of his mouth; his staff has signaled that he doesn’t want or expect Congress to renew the ban, and that is wrong.

I don’t think we need a lot of new federal laws. But we do need to do a few things at the federal level, like requiring Insta-Check on all retail and gun show sales. We also must do a better job of enforcing the laws on the books. President Bush promised to be tough in enforcing gun laws, but his Administration has prosecuted only about 2% of all gun crimes and they are virtually ignoring 20 of the 22 major federal gun laws on the books. That is an abysmal record, and as President, I’d make tough enforcement a reality, not just political rhetoric.

After that, I would let the states decide for themselves what, if any, additional gun safety laws they want. Just as we resist attempts by President Bush to dictate to the states how we run our school systems and what kind of welfare programs to have, we need to resist attempts to tell states how to deal with guns beyond existing federal law and fixing a few loopholes and problems.

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dback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 12:44 PM
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12. This is how he'll skirt gay marriage and medical pot laws, too
He'll present it as a states-right issue, and leave it up to the people in each individual state. A canny move, and--not to get too Federalist--a reasonable one.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:23 AM
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3. Link
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 09:24 AM by Mika
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number six Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:31 AM
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5. Was that a blacklist
or just a list of everyone who's ever been famous?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:37 AM
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6. Appears to be
everyone who isn't a racist gun-toting imbecile like Tim McViegh and Ted Nugent...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:39 AM
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7. You can join
Put your name down as an enemy of the racist extremist NRA....

http://www.nrablacklist.com/
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:49 AM
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10. With articles like this, why do I get roasted for my "Sheeple" stance?
I talk to a lot of people, both folks from the left, and (more often) folks from the Right, and you know what? I NEVER hear "I'm not voting for the Democrats because you all think us Rush fans are stoopid sheep." No, what I hear is "I voted for Bush because Al Gore wanted to take my guns away..."

The "Gun Issue" *IS* real, and it *HAS* cost us elections.

So I get my ass chewed on for my "elitist" opinion that a lot of "Murkans" are so stupid they'd drown in a rainstorm, but we just go ahead and keep perpetuating the REAL reason Deomcrats have a hard time in the Midwest....
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JP1000 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:37 AM
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11. Britney's Black Helicopter
Going through the list of "undesirables", I was just imagining Shania Twain taking my gun, forcing me to strip naked at gunpoint and lick her shiny leather boots ... I might like that .. I might like that very much.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 03:38 AM
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15. Can I get in on that
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birdman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:29 PM
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13. Thanks for the kind words
for my article.

Nothing is as gratifying as praise for a satirical
piece from the illustrious Bob B.

Almost peed myself laughing when I found this blacklist a
few days ago. You're right, it's pretty hard NOT to be on the
list.

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 05:17 PM
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14. You're very welcome
The list Is just amazing....bet you didn't know before this that the American Academy of Pediatricians was plotting with Vinny Testaverde, Hallmark Cards, and Hadassah to take away our guns...

You might have fun glancing at this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=15904&mesg_id=15904

and this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=17304&mesg_id=17304
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