Molly Ivins: The Towering Solons of Abortion (on SD State Sen. Napoli)

[Dudley_DUright]

South Dakota is so rarely found on the leading edge of the far out, the wiggy, the California-esque. But it has now staked its claim. First to Outlaw Abortion This Century. The state legislature of South Dakota, in all its wisdom and majesty, a legislature comprised of sons and daughters of the soil from Aberdeen to Zell, have usurped the right of the women of that state to decide whether or not to bear the child of an unwanted pregnancy. They will decide. Women will do what they decide.

These towering solons, representing citizens from the great cosmopolitan centers of Rapid City and Sioux Falls to the bosky dells near Yankton, are noted for their sagacity and understanding. When you think “enlightenment,” the first thing that comes to your mind is “the South Dakota Legislature,” right?

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The South Dakota Legislature has made it a crime for a doctor to perform an abortion under any circumstances except to save the life of the mother. There are no exceptions for rape, incest or to preserve the health of the mother. Should this strike you as hard cheese, State Sen. Bill Napoli, R-Rapid City, explains how rape and incest could be exceptions under the “life” clause. Napoli believes most abortions are performed for “convenience,” but he told “The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer” about how he thinks a “real-life example” of the exception could be invoked:

“A real-life description to me would be a rape victim, brutally raped, savaged. The girl was a virgin. She was religious. She planned on saving her virginity until she was married. She was brutalized and raped, sodomized as bad as you can possibly make it, and is impregnated. I mean, that girl, could be so messed up, physically and psychologically, that carrying that child could very well threaten her life.”

more...

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20060307_ivins_abortion/

Why do I get the feeling that Bill Napoli reads "The Handmaiden's Tale" as a how to manual? :mad:

[IsItJustMe]

1. Why do repukes always use such twisted logic?

[SCDem]

2. Sounds like the poor women of SD are on the wrong end of a twofer deal

by twofer I mean two for one
Not only does a women who is the victim of rape get raped once but then why not a second time by the good ol supposed statesmen of SD.

This is sick that this is even being put out there.

People always talk about "Middle America" and true America being in the heartland and whatever. It sounds like there is know heart in the heartland if they are claiming SD to be the heartland of America.

[redqueen]

7. A black, vile, hateful heart...that needs to be replaced.

It's LONG past time.

[xchrom]

3. this pretty much says evrything you need to know

''“A real-life description to me would be a rape victim, brutally raped, savaged. The girl was a virgin. She was religious. She planned on saving her virginity until she was married. She was brutalized and raped, sodomized as bad as you can possibly make it, and is impregnated. I mean, that girl, could be so messed up, physically and psychologically, that carrying that child could very well threaten her life.”


it's 2006 and this is how this tapeworm thinks.

he's wasting air.

[BlueEyedSon]

5. How does a little psychological trauma effect a pregnancy months later?

Is this guy a MD or Psychiatrist ?

What if she has had sex once BEFORE the rape? What if there was no sodomy? etc, etc

A nutjob who should have no business making laws for others, pure and simple.

[xchrom]

10. just the tenor of his statement is nuts -- and a little ocd

thrown in.

he's another one who theorizes that rape is more traumatic for virgins -- but women seeking abortions for ''convenience'' are whores who played loosely and irresponsibly.

they ''think'' sick -- just sick.

not only do they need help -- they need to be kept away from the general population.

[BlueEyedSon]

4. anyone have a map or chart of which countries do/do not allow abortion

it would be great to equate those SD bozos with the third world or religious fundamentalist countryies.

[redqueen]

6. Virgin? Religious? Saving it for her husband?

Ladies, how long are we going to put up with this paternal crap?

[Lydia Leftcoast]

15. Reminds me of the time a student in one of the graduate dorms at Yale

was raped by an intruder. (This was about 1974-75.)

The Graduate Student Senate petitioned the Board of Regents to put in a security system in that particular dorm. One of the Regents was rumored to have said, "What's the big deal? She probably wasn't a virgin anyway."

However, then the rapist struck again, only this time in an undergraduate dorm. We never found out the identity of the victim, but we wondered whether she was the daughter of someone rich and/or famous, because security systems were installed in all the dorms in record time.

[redqueen]

16. Disgusting...

I can't stop wondering how prevalent that attitude is even today, though... and even among liberals.

[CrispyQ]

8. This is the first step in their ultimate plan.

In South Dakota, pharmacists can refuse to fill a prescription for contraceptives should it trouble their conscience, and some groups who worked on the anti-abortion bill believe contraception also needs to be outlawed. Good plan. After that, we’ll reconsider women’s property rights, civil right and voting rights.

Once again we will be the property of our fathers and/or husbands.

[Merlot]

9. That is really scary - where is it from?

[CrispyQ]

12. Molly's article from the link in the OP.

It's somewhat speculative, but I've no doubt that these types of men would love to take us back to those times where women were mere property.

[Dudley_DUright]

13. second to last paragraph in Molly's piece

She forgot to add the :sarcasm: warning, although considering that bunch of Neanderthals in the SD legislature, maybe not.

[Wanet]

11. As I watched Mr. Napoli on the NewsHour

He seemed to really be getting into his description of the brutal rape of this young, religious virgin. Lots of detail -- tearing, sodomizing, etc. Maybe he should write a porno novel along these lines -- he's got talent. Sickening.

[Catfight]

14. Sounds to me he talks from experience. He's very detailed. nt

[Slyder]

17. But what is the punishment?

Aborting a fetus must be first degree murder. The abortionist and the mother must face execution, as should any accessories before or after the fact. But in order for the punishment to deter the crime, the mother, in particular, must die in some hideous way. Perhaps on TV at a professional half-time. Something that will be really bloody and make her scream a lot. Having an abortion somewhere where it is legal should carry the same punishment. Abortionists should have their hands cut off! Let the streets run with blood. Let the blood be given up to God as a thanksgiving for the death of baby killers.

Would it not just be simpler to fight abortion on moral grounds? I personally am pro-choice, but not pro-abortion. Abortion as birth control is a horrible thing. Let's make sure that babies are not conceived that are not wanted through easily available birth control and education. Legal or illegal, abortion is hard on everyone involved. Making abortion illegal will not end it. It will just mean more women will be mutilated and die. Abortion should be safe, legal, and very rare.