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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 10:50 PM
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Gen. William Odom ...... Iraq through the prism of Vietnam
The Vietnam War experience can’t tell us anything about the war in Iraq – or so it is said. If you believe that, trying looking through this lens, and you may change your mind.

The Vietnam War had three phases. The War in Iraq has already completed an analogous first phase, is approaching the end of the second phase, and shows signs of entering the third.

Phase One in Vietnam lasted from 1961 until the Congress passed the Tonkin Gulf Resolution in March 1965, authorizing deployment of large U.S. combat forces in South Vietnam. It began with hesitation and a gross misreading of American strategic interests. It concluded with the U.S. use of phony intelligence that made it seem that North Vietnamese patrol boats had attacked U.S. ships in the Tonkin Gulf without provocation.

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The difference lies in the consequences. Vietnam did not have the devastating effects on U.S. power that Iraq is already having. On this point, those who deny the Vietnam-Iraq analogy are probably right. They are wrong, however, in believing that “staying the course” will have any result other than making the damage to U.S. power far greater than changing course and withdrawing sooner in as orderly a fashion as possible.

But even in its differences, Vietnam can be instructive about Iraq. Once the U.S. position in Vietnam collapsed, Washington was free to reverse the negative trends it faced in NATO and U.S.-Soviet military balance, in the world economy, in its international image, and in other areas. Only by getting out of Iraq can the United States possibly gain sufficient international support to design a new strategy for limiting the burgeoning growth of anti-Western forces it has unleashed in the Middle East and Southwest Asia.

http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=background.view&backgroundid=0078--
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 10:54 PM
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1. General Odom (former NSA); bush aiding Osama bin Laden & al Qaeda
"Right now, the course we're on, we're achieving Bin Laden's ends…. I've never seen it so bad between the office of the secretary of defense and the military. There's a significant majority believing this is a disaster."

"The two parties whose interests have been advanced have been the Iranians and al-Qaeda. Bin Laden could argue with some cogency that our going into Iraq was the equivalent of the Germans in Stalingrad. They defeated themselves by pouring more in there. Tragic."
-Gen. William Odom, former head of the National Security Agency
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/091704Y.shtml

But bush the deserter and cheney the draft avoider know better than a US General, of course.

Rightwingnuts; stupidest MFers on the planet.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:10 AM
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2. Both parties are failing this nation when they refuse to admit failure!
Why didn't the Democratic leaders rally around Murtha?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:06 AM
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3. A kick for Gen. Odom, who nails it on the wall for all to see. nt
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:25 PM
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4. Here is a flyer you can download with an Odom quote....
IRAQ WAR: What is it good for?

Right click and choose Save Target As:
http://bushcheated04.com/war2.pdf





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