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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 06:06 PM
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Moral Imperative (Universal Health Care-Now) - New Republic

Over the last 25 years, liberalism has lost both its good name and its sway over politics. But it is liberalism's loss of imagination that is most disheartening. Since President Clinton's health care plan unraveled in 1994--a debacle that this magazine, regrettably, abetted--liberals have grown chastened and confused, afraid to think big ideas. Such reticence had its proper time and place; large-scale political and substantive failures demand introspection, not to mention humility. But it is time to be ambitious again. And the place to begin is the very spot where liberalism left off a decade ago: Guaranteeing every American citizen access to affordable, high-quality medical care.

The familiar name for this idea is "universal health care," a term that, however accurate, drains the concept of its moral resonance. Alone among the most developed nations, the United States allows nearly 16 percent of its population--46 million people--to go without health insurance. And, while it is commonly assumed that the uninsured still get medical care, statistics and anecdotes tell a different story. Across the United States today, there are diabetics skimping on their insulin, child asthmatics struggling to breathe, and cancer victims dying from undetected tumors. Studies by the Institute of Medicine suggest that thousands of people, maybe even tens of thousands, die prematurely every year because they don't have health insurance. And even those who don't suffer medical consequences face financial and emotional pain, as when seniors choose between prescriptions and groceries--or when families choose between the mortgage and hospital bills.

These are not the sorts of hardships that an enlightened society tolerates, particularly when those hardships so frequently visit people who, as the politicians like to say, "work hard and play by the rules." Yet American society has tolerated this situation for a long time. It has done so, at least in part, because the majority of working Americans still had private health insurance, generally through their jobs--the consequences of losing health coverage were, for the most part, somebody else's concern. Universal health care promised them security they already had. Change would only be for the worse.

But how many people can really count upon such security now? Precisely because working people expect to get insurance through their jobs, they are dependent upon the enthusiasm of employers to help pay for it--an enthusiasm that is waning in the face of rising medical costs and global competition. Companies have responded by reengineering their workforces to shed full-time workers that receive benefits, by redesigning their insurance plans to offer skimpier coverage, or by simply declining to offer coverage altogether. Soon, the only employers left offering generous health coverage may be the ones forced to do so by union contracts--employers like the Big Three automakers, which, when we last checked, were barely skirting bankruptcy themselves.

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Appender's Question - Is this our winning "wedge" issue for 2006? 2008?
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 07:09 PM
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1. I can't imagine worse coverage than I have now
other than no coverage at all. I'm self employed, so it's all out of my pocket at rates significantly higher than workers who are part of big group plans.

When I hear the "Horror srories" of "Socialized" medicine, I just have to laugh and wish that our horror stories were ONLY that bad. We have very little choice of doctors and care, we wait for unacceptably long times to get appointments, tests and treatment. Our co-pays, premiums and deductables skyrocket every year.

And I consider myself lucky that I was able to get any coverage at all.



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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 07:35 PM
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2. H.R. 676 Good link here.
It has a lot of good people pushing for it. 60 co-sponsors.

Check it out.

www.healthcare-now.org
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jschurchin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:27 PM
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3. Done and added to their contact......
list. The Insurance and Pharmaceutical administrative costs are killing health care in America. We NEED a Single Payer health care system.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:30 PM
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4. go the whole hog and call it 'Socialised Medicine' ...
Edited on Sat Mar-18-06 09:31 PM by TheBaldyMan
at least a few conservitives will blow a fuse and turn purple live on air.

Seriously, the fact that the wealthiest country in the world still hasn't universal health coverage remains a scandal. What has Cuba got that America couldn't do better ? Universal health coverage would better the lot of everybody in the States. It would be cheaper to have mass provision of health insurance with the risk shared amongst everybody equally. The US infant mortality rates would no longer look like a 3rd world country.

I keep wondering how little value successive administrations have placed on the electorate's wellbeing for this scandal to continue. Iraq had a universal health provision before the invasion, it may not have been a 5-star service but it was open to all. It seems that the government values bombs ahead of people.

edited for typos
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:08 PM
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7. maybe if Cuba did with doctors what Chavez is doing with oil...
that would shame Washington into doing it.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:00 AM
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9. they already are ...
Edited on Sun Mar-19-06 12:02 AM by TheBaldyMan
Cuba is doing the diplomacy thing in a way that the Bush administration couldn't even approach, it's just so far outside their understanding.

http://www.medicc.org/medicc_review/0905/international-cooperation-report.html

This is only one of a great many news reports on how to do the hearts and minds thing right.

The funny thing is the Henry Reeve Unit is named after a Brooklyn native who fought in the Cuban indenpendance struggle !
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:03 PM
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5. there is a simple way to do this that could make the DLC useful
Convince other businesses and corporations that they are being screwed by insurance and pharma costs and get them behind single payer.

Of course the DLC won't do this because they would hate to alienate any potential big money donor, but this is just one "pro-business" way to spin.

Single payer would also help small businesses who currently can't compete with large corporations because they can't afford to offer employees health care benefits, and so on.

Someone wrote that Ike sold the interstate highway system as vital to national defense and that's how it got through.

If this was sold as vital to the economy, it could go through too.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:39 PM
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8. If you lived in Detroit
--Listened to progressive local talk radio in Detroit

--Been to union halls in Detroit

It would be painfully and sadly obvious that in order to save the wretched remnants of our manufacturing infrastructure we have to go to "Single Payer" and remove health insurance from the employment relationship.

I lived in Farmington Hills, MI for eight years -- with Ford and GM execs and middle managers and engineers all over the neighborhood -- and they knew it then.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:07 PM
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6. Give insurance industry one chance to get in
processing claims and administering benefits--not in the Byzantine system Bush came up with for his drug benefit, but behind the scenes so the consumer doesn't have to even know who is processing the claim.

Give them a set percentage of the money they collect.

Take away their ability to deny service, and give that to a government body.

If they don't bite on that, fuck'em. Let'em die.

Offer civil service jobs to their employees, and let the companies wither away.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:03 AM
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10. Interesting take from TNR
Edited on Sun Mar-19-06 02:03 AM by depakid
"The right, in other words, has decided the problem with unaffordable health care is that it needs to be more unaffordable, at least for the people who need it most. And, into this vast, disturbing intellectual void on what is arguably the most important domestic issue of our time, the Democrats are proposing ... well, not a whole lot.

Nader wrote this little blub about one of those bogus "surveys" the DNC- and others- send around:

"Question seven asks quite properly my opinion about "healthcare for all Americans."

Three choices: tax credits for employers, medical savings accounts or "a government-run system where everyone is guaranteed health coverage." Who gave them these last words-the HMO industry? Why didn't the Democratic National Committee simply say "full Medicare for everyone?" Besides, the DNC should have said "a government-funded" system, which is what I believe they and "single-payer" advocates understand those words to mean. Not a takeover of the entire medical and health industry by the government. One would have thought Dr. Dean would have caught this miswording.

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0318-23.htm
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