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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:00 PM
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The Stuff That Happened
Three years ago, the United States invaded Iraq. We can all run the story through our minds: Shock and Awe, Coalition of the Willing, Mission Accomplished, looting, "Stuff happens," no W.M.D., suicide bombers, purple fingers, blasted shrine. Many who supported the invasion have taken this anniversary to argue that it all would have been worthwhile if things had been run better. They argue that if the coalition forces had been large enough to actually secure the country, to keep insurgents from raiding Saddam Hussein's ammunition depots, to give the people a sense of safety, the country might well be on the road to a hopeful future.

We doubt it. The last three years have shown how little our national leaders understood Iraq, and have reminded us how badly attempts at liberation from the outside have gone in the past. Given where we are now, the question of whether a botched invasion created a lost opportunity might be moot, except for one thing. The man who did the botching, Donald Rumsfeld, is still the secretary of defense.

The generals on the ground understood what a disaster they were creating in the pell-mell race to Baghdad, which left in its wake an entire country full of places where Saddam Hussein's loyalists could regroup and prepare to carry on a permanent war against the Americans and their fellow Iraqis. As the new book "Cobra II" by Michael Gordon of The Times and Bernard Trainor underscores, the generals in the field were overruled by directives from Washington, where military decisions were being made by men who were guided not by reality, but by their own beloved myths about what Iraq was like and how the war was going to be won.

Chances are that at the time George W. Bush did not have an inkling of how badly he was being served by the decision makers at the Pentagon. But the fact that Mr. Rumsfeld continues to hold his job tells us that Mr. Bush doesn't care, that he prefers living in the same dream world that his secretary of defense inhabits.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/opinion/19sun1.html?hp
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:06 PM
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1. Neo cons live in a dream world like in the James Bond movies
they think they can take over the world.
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redphish Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:15 PM
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2. They don't think they can take over the world...
They think they already own it and they can throw their weight around as they please.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:20 PM
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4. I think they have some quest
rather like the kings of England and Spain - conquerers.
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redphish Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:27 PM
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5. Nah... more like legends in their own minds.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:28 PM
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6. yes it's in their own minds
trouble is thousands of people have died in the process.
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:16 PM
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3. I am the grass; bush; I cover all.
Grass Bush

Pile the bodies high in Austerlitz and Waterloo Iraq
Shovel them under and let me work--
I am the grass; bush; I cover all.

And pile them high in Gettyburg Baghdad
And pile them high in Ypres and Vedum Mossoul and Al Fallaujah

Two years, ten years, and passengers ask the conductor:
What place is this?

I am the grass bush.
Let me work.

Carl Sandburg

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:30 PM
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7. yah, stuff happens, troops die!
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