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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:47 PM
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Sept 11 left us with a host of questions.
Sept. 11 left us with a host of questions
Mark Morford

Wednesday, March 29, 2006

Here is your must-read for the month. Here is your oh-my-God-I'm-sending-this-piece-to-every-smart-person-I-know hunk of outstanding, distressing, disquieting media bliss.

Here it is: an absolutely exceptional inside scoop on the white-hot world of Sept. 11 conspiracy theories, writ large and smart by Mark Jacobson at New York magazine, and it's mandatory reading for anyone and everyone who's ever entertained the nagging thought that something -- or rather, far more than one something -- is deeply wrong with the official line on Sept. 11. (To find the article, go to nymag.com/news and scroll down to "most popular recent stories.")

See, it is very likely that you already know that Sept. 11 will go down in the conspiracy history books as a far more sinister affair than, say, the murky swirl of the Kennedy assassination. You probably already know that much of what exactly happened on Sept. 11 remains deeply unsettling and largely unsolved -- or, to put it another way, if you don't know all of this and if you fully and blithely accept the official Sept. 11 story, well, you haven't been paying close enough attention.

But on this, the third anniversary of the launch of Bush's invasion of Iraq, what you might not know, what gets so easily forgotten in the mists of time and via the endless repetition of the orthodox Sept. 11 tale, is the staggering array of unanswered questions about just about every single aspect of Sept. 11 -- the planes, the WTC towers, the Pentagon, the fires, the passengers and the cell phone calls and the firefighters and, well, just about everything. It is, when you look closely, all merely a matter of how far down the rabbit hole you are willing to go.

Verily, Jacobson, in his piece, encounters crackpots and fringe nutballs and those who think Sept. 11 was connected to aliens and electromagnetic fields and the Illuminati. It can, unfortunately, get a little crazy. But there is also a very smart, grounded, intelligent and surprisingly large faction -- which includes eyewitnesses, Sept. 11 widows, former generals, pilots, professors, engineers, WTC maintenance workers and many, many more -- who point to a rather shocking pile of evidence that says there is simply no way 19 fanatics with box cutters sent by some bearded lunatic in a cave could have pulled off the most perfectly orchestrated air attack of the century. Not without serious help, anyway.

. . . . . . .

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/29/DDGRJHUSMT1.DTL&hw=morford&sn=004&sc=510
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:55 PM
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1. Alot of questions and--the biggest coverup in history... nt.
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:11 PM
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2. Great Article but who would disbelive the PNAC version?

¿¡after all there is no evidence that bombs were placed inside to demolish the building was there!?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:19 PM
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3. I'm not a demolitions expert--so, am I correct in guessing that those
separate "puffs" (don't know the proper word) indicate something else was going on? what is that dropping in the last three pics?
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:27 PM
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4. Get a copy of loose change DVD
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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:31 PM
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6. Are you serious? Controlled demolition?
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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:29 PM
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5. What was dropping was just a piece of debris.
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:50 PM
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7. Look closely and you can see the jets of material being shot out
of the sides and the puffs of smoke in the head on view!
Got Broad Band watch the video Loose Change
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-51375819912882


Also see the call to reopen http://www.reopen911.org / they were sending out free videos watch and see how far down the rabitt hole this story goes! Watch the dramatic video as one of the World Trade Center Towers collapses
Play video (Quick Time, Real or Windows Media) http://reopen911.org/pictures_and_videos.htm#1
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:53 PM
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8. Yes, it was part of the WTC veneer.
That nice white stuff that covered the steel support members. It isn't structural, just decorative.

This has all been explained before. It doesn't stop the conspiracy crowd from claiming, incorrectly, that it is something else, or means something else.

It has no significance what-so-ever. The freaking building is collapsing and things are falling.

Note one thing, though. That debris is falling faster than the building in the pictures which debunks yet another piece of conspiracy theory misinformation, that the buildings collapsed in free fall. If that were true, all the debris would be falling together with the collapsing floors. When one thinks about these things for a second or two, how could it be otherwise? It's simple first semester high school physics, something of which the conspiracy theorists are apparently blissfully unaware.
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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 12:02 AM
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9. Thanks---I thought I was the only one that felt that way.
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 12:20 AM
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10. Try looking again and also look at this site
http://www.letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/index.php?module=documents&JAS_DocumentManager_op=viewDocument&JAS_Document_id=1
Of course if you have the attitude of the Warren err 911 commision you just keep your blinders on and forget it after all we were never lied into going to war before now were we?
Read this book by a general who won the CMOH and this was before WWII!

http://lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 01:49 PM
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13. Please don't put opinions on me.
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 02:24 PM by longship
I think the 9/11 Commission Report was rubbish, sweeping much under the rug. Especially, they did not go into the real 9/11 scandal, that the ChimpCo administration did absolutely nothing about clear and unambiguous warnings that such an attack was imminent.

But, given the information we all have at our fingertips, I cannot jump to the conclusions of the conspiracies spewed on all these 9/11 sites. Nearly all their premises are based on misinformation, outright distortions of facts, bad science, and faulty assumptions and logic.

I will not go into details in this forum, as I have done so before and have found it to be fruitless to try to explain things to people who are blinded by some perverse need to believe solely in the delusional ravings on many of those sites.

However, do not presume that just because I don't believe in these contrived conspiracies that I accept the administration's explanation of things. I am merely exercising my right to be skeptical of claims which are unsupported by evidence, especially when some of them are as outrageous as they are.

BTW, I've been to all those sites. Much content on them is nothing but ridiculous, contrived bunkum. If there is anything of value, it is clouded by unsupported conclusions like disappearing airliners, invisible missiles, controlled demolitions, and other ridiculous claims.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 12:20 AM
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11. even assuming that what you are saying is true, that does not say
anything about all the other questions that are being posed about everything surrounding that day.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 01:56 PM
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14. You bet.
I totally agree with your statement, in principle. But do not presume that, in any way, I have swallowed the 9/11 conspiracy theories floating around here.
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veracity Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 12:40 AM
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12. get Oprah to open up the investigation!
Key phrase in this article is : UNANSWERED QUESTIONS!
There is a HUGE abount of new evidence, amassed by competent professionals and scientists to refute the version of 9/11 given to us by LIARS. Why does ANYONE believe the uncorroborated story that has never been investigated. No, the Kean Commission only looked into the intel failures and had to rely on the official version.... no subpoena powers and no investigation into what happened that day.

Here's the editorial YOU HAVE TO READ FULLY. David Ray Griffin is already on board. Just send one email and be part of history:

Charlie Sheen opened the door....but then CNN SHOW BIZ TONIGHT CANCELLED ED ASNER'S FOLLOW UP APPEARANCE...no more 9/11 talk! Big surprise. Here's the only way to go and YOU CAN HELP:

9/11 Truth Calling Oprah!
An Appeal from TvNewsLIES.org


For more than five years now, the entire mainstream corporate news media apparatus has been controlled by a handful of behind-the-scene power brokers. In all that time there has been a total blackout on any mention, never mind discussion, of the truth behind the events of 9/11.

Despite their credibility and expertise, high-powered and extremely convincing voices of truth have been denied access to the public via the mainstream media. In the years following the attacks of 9/11, a significant number of knowledgeable people have attempted to alert the nation about the mountain of evidence that has been unearthed by their investigations, and which shoots large holes in the ‘official’ version of events sold to an unsuspecting and unquestioning public.

These people include former Bush administration officials, CIA analysts, FBI whistleblowers, scholars, academics, theologians and eye witnesses to the events of that tragic day. Not one of these people has been allowed to present his or her individual and collective conclusions that the Bush administration was either totally negligent or fully complicit or in the events of 9/11.

The media blacklisting of any and all members of the independent 9/11 truth community, no matter how impressive his or her credentials, has resulted in widespread ignorance of the huge number of anomalies and inconsistencies in the official version. No questions have been allowed to be raised, and not one shred of evidence that refutes the official version has been presented to the viewing or reading public anywhere but on the Internet.

Recent events, however, suggest that there may be a breach in this wall of silence. It seems that the only way for the 9/11 truth movement to attract the attention of the public is for well-known individuals in the entertainment arena to come forward and demand the truth.

Sad but true, a large number of Americans believe nothing until they see it on TV! There can be no question about the enormous influence and effect of television broadcasting on public opinion, a very frightening fact in these troubled and dangerous times. It was exactly for that reason that I created TvNewsLIES.org and dedicated these past years to exposing the lies and deception emanating from our broadcast news industry. And that is why I now am calling for help from one of TV’s most popular and respected performers.

FIVE MINUTES FOR ONE EMAIL! THAT'S ALL...
Article continued here:


http://tvnewslies.org/html/9_11_truth_calling_oprah.html


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