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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:01 AM
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The new definition of military valour - saying no to politicians
n October 2002, when it became evident that Bush was determined to invade Iraq, the US Army War College's strategic studies institute undertook a study of a prospective occupation. Some bright soldiers and diplomats got together with two military academics, Dr Conrad Crane and Dr Andrew Terrill. The fruits of their labours were published in February 2003, before the first shot was fired.
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In 2003, the study predicted, after a brief initial honeymoon "suspicion of US motives will increase ... A force initially viewed as liberators can rapidly be relegated to the status of invaders ... Regionally, the occupation will be viewed with great scepticism, which may only be overcome by the population's rapid progress towards a secure and prosperous way of life ... The establishment of democracy or even some sort of rough pluralism in Iraq ... will be a staggering challenge". It warned that exile groups, the focus of Pentagon hopes, did not possess the domestic support to form a credible Iraqi interim administration.
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Perhaps the most important lesson of Iraq and Afghanistan is that senior soldiers on both sides of the Atlantic should be braver about saying no. Armed forces are the servants of democratic governments. But their commanders should recognise a constitutional duty to dig in their heels when invited by politicians to undertake operations they perceive as militarily unsound. This the 2003 Iraq invasion emphatically was, because of the US government's refusal meaningfully to address "phase IV" occupation planning.

Cobra II, the new book by Michael Gordon and General Bernard Trainor, which was serialised in this newspaper, makes plain that much of America's military leadership was uncomfortable with the operation, and thought the terms set by defence secretary Rumsfeld quite unrealistic. Yet the doubters stifled their feelings, and the dissenters were sidelined. There was enough ambitious, heedless top brass in the mould of General Tommy Franks to do the business.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1745444,00.html
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:20 AM
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1. Amazing isn't it
That everyone with at least three working neurons was able to predict a fiasco but the neocons were incapable of it.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 04:43 PM
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2. I believe the neocons did not really care too much
if it worked, with an ongoing war the military industrial complex makes more money. I also believe they thought it would enhance their job security if we are in a state of perpetual war, because the American People would be nervous about "changing horses in midstream".
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