'Why I'm Raising Violent 4 Year-Olds' from a SoBaptist

[bobbieinok]

http://www.henryinstitute.org/commentary_read.php?cid=127

Moore to the Point
A Commentary by Russell D. Moore


Why I'm Raising Violent 4 Year-Olds
Wednesday, June 01, 2005

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This is because of my overall philosophy of childrearing. I am aiming to raise up violent sons.

I am not seeking to raise sons who are violent in the amoral, pagan sense of contemporary teenagers playing "Grand Theft Auto" video games or carjacking motorists. I want them to be more violent than that.

I want them to understand that the Christian life is not a Hallmark Channel version of baptized sentimentality. Instead, it is a cosmic battle between an evil dragon and the child of the woman, an ancient warfare that now includes all who belong to the Child of the Promise (Rev 12). I want them to forgive their enemies, not because they are good boys, but because they understand that vengeance against the Serpent comes not from their hand, but from that of the anointed Warrior-King (Rev 19), whose blood-soaked garments don't often transfer to the imagery of a Precious Moments wall-hanging. And I want them to exercise self-control of their passions, not because it is polite, but because they are called to struggle against the Evil One, even to the point of cutting off their own limbs rather than succumb to devices.

The "Star Wars" movie offered the opportunity to talk through these issues of cosmic struggle with my boys. And to place such themes in context of what they already know from the most blessedly violent bedtime stories they hear every day: the Holy Scriptures.





© 2006 The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. All Rights Reserved.

[Roland99]

1. Nothing nuttier than a Fund-A-Mental abusing the Book of Revelation.

[yurbud]

20. You can't abuse Revelations--it's like an acid trip. Martin Luther wanted

to tear it out of the Bible and throw it in a river.

That would have been his greatest contribution to mankind if he had.

[Xeric]

2. This man is mentally disturbed

He has no business raising children.

[MrScorpio]

3. Who's Head Would Jesus Bash In?

Is that somewhere in the book of Vindictus?

I think I missed that in my Bible

[Dunvegan]

14. The Book of Vindictus...

:rofl:

Xcellent, MrScorpio.

[baldguy]

4. Because you're a raving sociopath?

Just guessing.

[Sinti]

5. This is the new Jesus -- guess y'all didn't get the memo huh?

It's time for the the return of Jesus. Jesus with a shotgun. This is all in the book of Revelations, and dramatized in the Left Behind series by Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins. You're behind the times. }(

[dchill]

28. I got the memo...

But as a mature and rational adult human, I instantly realized that it was more Christo-fascist nonsense. In NO philosophy or reality is any of this shit anywhere near valid or right, unless we're talking "Right."

It's as amusing as it is dangerous. I laugh, I shudder.

[Flabbergasted]

6. All in All Fascinating idea! He brings up star wars? Wow!

[OnyxCollie]

9. Well, if anything,

Star Wars fulfills all the rules of a classic western. Virtuous young man overcomes self-doubt and gains enlightenment avenging the deaths of his aunt and uncle.

The guy's still a psycho, though.

[Flabbergasted]

12. Gosh man yeah but compared to Darth? My daughter met Jones at the

Library across the street last year! I saw him from a distance.

[kaygore]

7. Jesus was violent only once--with the money changers in the Temple

Guess who those money changers are today?????

Can we say, "Fundamentalists"?????

[baldguy]

21. Under Bush, JC would be arrested & charged with terrorism.

[Der Blaue Engel]

8. Child abuse in the guise of religious freedom

:puke:

[PublicWrath]

10. I agree. This is child abuse. ...........n/t

[NYC]

11. Who is this?

...from that of the anointed Warrior-King (Rev 19), whose blood-soaked garments...

Is that God?

[Chulanowa]

13. Nope

That's what Jesus looks like in the Book of Revelation. Which is, not coincidentally, the Fundy's favorite book in the whole thing. Sort of like how the Ten Commandments (one version of them) is more important than the Beatitudes

[NYC]

16. Is that the same Jesus as "turn the other cheek"

Jesus?

[bunkerbuster1]

19. Fundies love the craziest book in the whole damn Bible.

gotta love that.

[bluestateguy]

15. Southern Baptist is a very violent, wicked religion

They need not advocate terrorism because all of their people are in positions of power, and thus can make official state-sponsored war.

[ChristianLibrul]

17. "Southern Baptist" is a denomination, not a religion

But they are an angry lot. I'm a recovering Baptist of some 30 years, and I well remember the 19th-century "values" from which I ran screaming as soon as I was on my own and able to do so. Bad as they were then, they're far worse now. Rewriting history, science and even the New Testament? Promoting lying, corruption, ignorance, separatism and hatespeech? Warmongering?

They're terrible people.

[zbdent]

18. BAM! I forgive you! BAM! I forgive you! BAM! I forgive you!

Take that - and may God go with you . . .

[NMMNG]

22. Those kids are going to be so screwed up

They are going to be a danger to themselves and/or others, and that father will be the reason. It is out and out child abuse.

[bobbieinok]

23. for you who might want additional info abt this, I found this link at

http://community.livejournal.com/dark_christian/481160.html

From: dogemperor Date: April 6th, 2006 - 03:15 am (Link)


Ah, yes, Mohler--one of the people who was a prime architect in the hijacking of the Southern Baptist Convention as a whole (and in particular the Seminary--to the point that all faculty and staff are now required to sign an explicitly dominionist "statement of faith") by dominionists, singlehandedly destroyed the *only* major accredited school of social work housed by a religious seminary (and one which was nationally recognised as one of the best schools of its type, at that; the whole sordid story of the destruction of the Carver School of Social Work is here) because of the dominionist belief women should not be in a ministerial role, has flat out stated it is women's divine mission to breed a "quiverfull" of little God Warriors, has in official seminary documents published material from another member of the faculty who has stated he is actively training his children to be sociopaths so they can be proper "God Warriors", whose home church (where he is one of the head pastors, and which is the de facto "home church" for the seminary itself) was the home of the first Justice Sunday event and is one of the three churches that are the "Unholy Trinity" of dominionist churches in the Louisville area...

Yeah, you could say that some of us are (unfortunately) familiar with Mohler.


This was one of several comments to a post asking about Mohler.
In the original there are many links to the points dogemperor makes.

This web site and dogemperor's posts in general (search with google) are good sources for what's going on today in dominionist circles. See also http://www.talk2action.com.

[Aviation Pro]

24. Malloy is right....

...this branch of fundamentalism prays, PRAYS, for the incineration of the Earth so that they - and only they - can receive their "reward." These are sick, twisted bastards. At other times in their lives they were alcoholics and drug addicts. I believe the only way to deal with these people is to take away everything that connects them to their belief by removing the one thing that fuels their addiction, money. The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and others of their ilk should have their tax exempt status revoked and then a 100% tax placed on their revenue stream.

[Taxloss]

25. Poor kid.

What a shocking, awful way to raise a child. That kid will have nightmares his whole life.

[lolly]

26. Satanic Child Abuse

Children of parents like these are the types of kids who will be at the center of all sorts of bizarre Satanic Child Abuse charges.

They have this whole terminology of G-d vs. Satan embedded in them, they have terrible fear and anguish and resentment and shame--and they project all this on some poor teacher or child care worker or neighbor.

[Taxloss]

27. I completely agree.

If you could imagine a kid being brought up to worship Satan, and to believe that the world was a pitched battle between the forces of pleasure and the evil of denial, in such violent terms, then Social Services (or whatever their US equivalent is) would rightly intervene.

This is simply sick. They are damaging a child.

[Brigid]

29. Marriage

If these boys ever marry, I feel sorry for their wives. What's going to happen the first time their wives disagree with them about something?