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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:12 PM
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gorbachev's gaia graphics (this is sooooo weird)
(in googling to find a company that does the gaia globes--couldn't find, by the way--I ran across this piece of weirdness, and thought I would share it with all of you. I WISH I had had some strong drink before I ran across this)

Gorbachev's Gaia Graphics
March 13th, 2006


Since presiding over the fall of Communism, Mikhail Gorbachev has moved on to a different mode for the imposition of a utopian vision on humanity. Perhaps sensing that religious impulses remain far more powerful than the dreams of Karl Marx, he is working to harness religion to environmentalism, via his new nonprofit vehicle, Green Cross International . Beneath a veneer of conventional do-gooder environmentalism is a pathway to worship Gaia, the earth as a goddess.

I only learned of Gorby’s new gig via Vasko Kohlmayer’s apt comment in The American Thinker a few days ago. Mr. Kohlmayer is quite correct that the site mostly spouts platitudes. But I was deeply struck by the subliminal propaganda embedded in the graphic symbol created for the new organization.



Most people are unaware of the impact that symbols can have on their thoughts and feelings about the entity being represented. Going through life, we all learn to associate certain shapes, colors, sounds, smells, and other sensory data with feelings, thoughts, values, and other powerful motivating factors in our lives. The Green Cross symbol shows very careful planning and thinking about how to evoke from people the world over a religious impulse toward Mother Earth (or Gaia )

Let’s look at Green Cross as it portrays itself.

. . . . . . . . .. .

Environmentalism seeks the ruin of religion, and the elevation of Gaia; replacing worship of the Creator with worship of things created. But they cannot be honest about their goal, and their logo stands as naked evidence of their chicanery for us to decipher.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5320

comments please?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:20 PM
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1. A friend of mine, an old foreign correspondent
for the Chicago Tribune - he interviewed David ben-Gurion, that's how far back he went - now retired, met and interviewed just about everyone in this world, I swear.

But, he told me that the most charismatic and captivating human being he ever met was Mikhail Gorbachev. My friend had been stationed in Moscow for many years during the Cold War, and spoke perfect Russian, so they communicated in Gorbachev's language, which probably helped.

Except, my old buddy is a tough nut, not easily impressed, and his time with this guy left him changed. It really did. Finally, he told me that he believed he had been in the presence of someone who dwelt on another spiritual realm, one that wasn't accessible to mortals such as we.

My old buddy never spoke like that. He broke down and cried for two days after spending the day with Elie Wiesel -whom he described as "a monument of a man" - but he was different after his time with Gorbachev. Calmer. Like he had been given something to ease his heart.

I'm glad he's doing this. Thank you for this.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 12:33 AM
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6. you are most welcome. and thank you so much for sharing that insight
from your friend.
I read the website of Green Cross--truly an amazing group, with a very spiritual, heart-based message.
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bluemarkers Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:21 PM
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2. oh yeah....
warning warning warning

fundies thinking again......

thanks for the links. I know several pagans, and wish my christian friends were more like them. :)


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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:33 PM
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3. Interesting to know what he is up to
I believe that Ray-gun got credit in the US for what Mikhail Gorbachev did.

Gorbachev pull back and avoided a confrontation with America -- or the Ray-Gun crowd. It seems that Gorbachev was far more intelligent than the conservatives in the US.

His bio makes him sound like a saint -- interesting reading none the less. He is a farmer's son and managed to get ahead because of his intelligence-- yet he retains his links to the soil & to the earth.

He didn't get ahead on his father's name -- like the current resident of the white house.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:38 PM
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4. A lot of Russians view Gorby as less a liberator and more as an agent of
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 09:39 PM by leveymg
dissolution, chaos, and reaction. When we look back on the last 15 years, that view makes increasing sense. Russia is far less secure and not much freer than when he left it.

Bush can be viewed as playing precisely the same role as the agent of collapsing empire. A sort of chemical accelerant in a process of disintegration and self-immolation.

Neither of them would admit their parallel roles, of course, but neither is particularly objective about themselves.

Don't worship this guy. He was wrong about the capacity for reform of his own country and about us.

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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 12:27 AM
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5. did you actually read the article? it wasn't ABOUT gorbachev, it was
about this whack job fundie freaking out because people are actually honoring the earth, and trying to do some humane things. you might even look up the website for Green Cross International.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:41 AM
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7. Consider the source.
"The American Thinker" is just another right-wing opinion rag masquerading as "thoughtful exploration of issues." Take a peek at the About, Links, and Contributors pages and you'll see what I mean.

The entire premise of the article is absurd and the interpretation of the Green Cross logo is really a stretch.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 07:37 AM
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8. In most of Europe, a green cross indicates a pharmacy
And they possibly would have had this in mind when naming the organisation, and very probably when designing the logo. But the main derivation of the name is explicitly given on the website: "Mikhail Gorbachev mentioned an idea of an organization, which would apply the medical emergency response model of the Red Cross International to ecological issues and expedite solutions to environmental problems that transcend national boundaries." Using green instead of red isn't exactly a huge leap of the imagination. And the logo designer put a leaf on there too.

The article does throw some light on the author's phobias and insecurities, however. He would benefit from having a friend he can trust to listen to his fears. I ssupect he doesn't really trust anyone, however.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 08:43 AM
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9. Sounds like he's putting the cause of humanity first again. Damn him.
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