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femmedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:21 AM
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Hartford Courant endorses Lieberman.
http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/editorials/hc-senate-endorse,0,1712552.story?coll=hc-utility-home

When choosing which Letters to The Editor to publish, the Courant gives preference to those which oppose their own editorials. Can we have a LTTE drive in support of Lamont? I've got to work now, but I'll get one out tonight.

I'm hoping when I get back to the computer, I'll find this thread recommended, and full of succinct talking points!


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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:23 AM
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1. How surprising....
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 09:23 AM by calico1
Not. This paper endorsed GWB in 2000. Not being satisfied with all the damage he had done so far, the paper endorsed him AGAIN in 2004! That they would endorse the Republican's favorite Democrat is hardly surprising. :eyes:
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 11:23 AM
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2. K&R
No coffee. Thus no talking points. kicked all the same for someone more awake than me.
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femmedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 11:31 AM
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3. I'm out of coffee too! Currently looking for chocolate. n/t
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 11:49 AM
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4. I guess they want to be on the losing side
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:48 PM
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5. Now that the coffee's kicked in ...
This is more a critique of their editorial than talking points for Lamont. But all the same, for whatever it's worth:

Seniority often matters, however. Mr. Lieberman has gained considerable influence in his 18 years in the Senate. His specialty is working with Republican moderates -- and sometimes conservatives -- to craft bills that can pass the most divided, least civil Congress in memory.


point 1: The first half of this basically says "always vote for the incumbant." That's a sentiment I've seen in various forms throughout the race - sometimes expressed as guilt for not being loyal to our incumbants, or anger because we're eating our own, or the person who's been serving has more experience. At the end of the day, it's an argument based on the idea that once a person is voted in, they have a basic entitlement to keep their seat forever. It's an argument against the concept of primaries, against being held accountable to the voters once you gain office.

point 2: It's a fine line between "working with Republican moderates" and "supporting the Republicans." Passing bills that pass a Republican majority Congress is only an accomplishment if the bills are something that benefits the public.

As head of the Governmental Affairs Committee in 2002, he wrote the Senate's version of the homeland security bill. With Republican Sen. John McCain and the 9/11 families, he forced President Bush to accept a bipartisan commission to investigate the intelligence failures leading to the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks. The commission's riveting report sold more than a million copies, and some of its most important recommendations were embraced. The list goes on.


First off, the fact that the commission report sold a million copies doesn't belong in a political endorsement. If he wrote substantial parts of it and is applying for a job as a writer, I'll keep that in mind, though.

Second, isn't the 2002 bill the one that put FEMA under homeland security? If so, it's a good thing he's not running for reelection in New Orleans. I'd like to know what part of DHS he's claiming credit for - The part where they aren't inspecting our ports? The part where money is disproportionately going to protect nontargets in red states? Or the part where they are protecting prom-goers in the midwest from riding uncertified mechanical bulls?

Mr. Lieberman's rectitude, though it strikes some as self-righteous, is principled. He led the charge to tone down sex and violence in video games for more than a decade.


We're bankrupting our country to pay for a war we're clearly losing which he continues to support, and we're entering a global energy crisis which he is on the wrong side of. Why are we having a discussion about video game content?

He is now called a renegade by many in his party for standing with President Bush on the invasion and occupation of Iraq. We have not often agreed with Mr. Lieberman on the conduct of the war but admire his sticking to his beliefs in the face of withering criticism. Not enough members of Congress have such character.


I'm tired of the claim that strength of character means refusing to admit when you're wrong.

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femmedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:31 PM
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6. Excellent, lwfern, as always. This may be a violation
of DU etiquette, but I started a new thread with a better headline when this one sank.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2748426

The "strength of character" meme is annoying the * out of me, too.

But, one question, what were you referring to when you said he was on the wrong side of global warming? I thought that was one of Joe's few strengths. No? Has he been doing something (else) evil while I wasn't paying attention?
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 06:24 PM
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7. I was just referring back to what the editorial said
"he disappointed many when he alone among Northeast Senate Democrats voted for the 2005 energy bill that did nothing to curb the nation's oil addiction or protect the environment."

The Best Energy Bill Corporations Could Buy has a good summary of the taxpayer subsidies written into the bill, along with a link to the votes.
http://www.citizen.org/print_article.cfm?ID=13980

You could probably write a good LTTE on that alone, talking about the $6 Billion in oil and gas subsidies, while oil companies are making record profits and gas prices are sky high. I imagine not too many people are thrilled about that vote.
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