Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

conservatives won't control for 60 years, NY TIMES letter Dec 2 2003

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:29 AM
Original message
conservatives won't control for 60 years, NY TIMES letter Dec 2 2003
letter published in NY TIMES Dec. 2, 2003, contradicts conservative David Brooks prediction that Republicans will control government for the next 60 years.



To the Editor:

Re "The Promised Land," by David Brooks (column, Nov. 29):

The reason conservatives will not stay in power long is simple: the majority of voters do not agree with their basic tenets. Their success must therefore rest on deception. Eventually, voters will unmask the truth.

Americans do not want to dismantle environmental regulations. They don't want to favor big business over consumers and taxpayers. They don't want to starve the Social Security and Medicare programs. They don't want a foreign policy that shuns international cooperation. They don't want increasing concentrations of wealth.

It may take voters a few more years of George W. Bush to figure out what's happening. But it won't take 60 years.
KEN SWENSEN
Pound Ridge, N.Y., Nov. 29, 2003
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
ZenLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:43 AM
Response to Original message
1. Nice.
:thumbsup:

That sums it up pretty nicely.

The one factor that I would add to that analysis is money. Since big business leans republican, the republicans have more money than we do on our side, thus enabling them to practice the deception that their success relies so much on. If not for this disparity, they would have a lot less power than they do right now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:00 AM
Response to Original message
2. LOL
Conservatives aren't in power now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:59 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. good point!!...the true traditional conservatives are on the sidelines..
as well.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CShine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 07:38 AM
Response to Original message
4. Mr. Letter-Writer missed a very important point.
The GOP is moving to the left on social programs. Geeez, just look at their prescription drug bill. It's classic LBJ-style leftist social spending. The GOP has a very obvious strategy. They stake out the extreme right on issues like religion, guns, gay right, etc., and then when it comes to social spending programs, they suddenly go way over to the left. They're trying to cover their asses on social spending by moving into left-wing territory and offering big government-funded benefits there while at the same time playing to the bigoted hate-mongers on the far right on issues that don't involve much government spending. This is not a true right-wing party. If it was, you wouldn't have the libertarian wing of the GOP fighting so hard against Bush's spending programs. Bush is trying to be a moderate on issues that involve big dollars (and he's having some success there). It's only on the issues that don't involve huge federal spending that Bush is trying to turn the country toward xenophobia and bigotry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dani Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. I disagree
I think it's very slowly becoming more clear to the average person that the Republicans have a revolutionary agenda which includes the privatization of many of those services you allude to. Repub dogma states privatization is good for everyone, but the reality is that it primarily benefits huge corporations and the ultra-wealthy -- that reality will take much less than 60 years to sink in, Republican subterfuge to the contrary. For example, I think the vast majority of Americans will balk when the Repubs start to push the privatization of the US Postal Service. That's why I think Swensen's letter is right on.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. Throwing money at drug companies and letting them maintain their
outrageous prices, while leaving many seniors worse off then before, is not "socialism."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:50 PM
Response to Original message
6. That presupposes a Healthy Republic with a Free Press and reliable voting
systems.

And I'm not sure we have ANY of those things right now, let alone all three.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:03 PM
Response to Original message
8. "their success must therefore lie in deception"
how appropriate for a letter about a David Brooks column. This letter really nailed it beautifully.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SmokeyBlues Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:25 PM
Response to Original message
9. A few more years of * hole before the deception is uncovered?
Let's work to make sure that this doesn't come true! Hell, just thinking about one more year of *hole in the White House makes me ill.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 09:47 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC