The Assault on Christmas Continues (more Bill O'Reilly swill)

[CShine]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,103740,00.html

[Cush]

1. O'Reillly needs a histoy lesson

In reality, Jesus & Christmas aren't even related, the Romans took a pagan holiday and turned it into their own.

[Bucky]

3. and a spellilng lesosn tu

[Cush]

5. lol

oops

[Kremer]

6. Most historians say Jesus was born sometime in April.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

8. Something about

shepherds not being out overnight with their flocks before then.

But we don't really know, since the whole nativity story is a later addition to the narrative.

At the very least, all those nativity scenes with snow on them are inaccurate. It doesn't snow a lot in the Middle East at any time of year.

[Bucky]

2. I hate to agree w/ O'Reilly

So I won't. The goob says Christians are being "persecuted" by not being allowed to display nativity scenes on government property. I assume he meant government property, he (typically) sort of skirts the whole issue of where the displays are occurring--implying that no public displays are allowed, which is retarded.

Obviously this isn't a case of persecution. They're only being inconvenienced. I really don't know of any cases where public facilities are being used for promoting Judaism or Islam, but obviously that would be as wrong as a public endorsement of belief in either the Christian God or in Bill O'Reilly's God, Rupert Murdoch.

[Enjolras]

9. And don't forget ....

"The goob says Christians are being "persecuted" by not being allowed to display nativity scenes on government property. I assume he meant government property, he (typically) sort of skirts the whole issue of where the displays are occurring--implying that no public displays are allowed, which is retarded."

He is talking specifically about in New York City, home to the most diverse, pluralistic population in the world. This policy, which he thinks is so blatantly discriminatory, does not apply everywhere in America, though that's exactly the impression his frustrated, volatile, right-wing viewers will no doubt get from his "commentary". (He knows this, of course) People like Pat Robertson, Pat BuKlanman, Gary Bauer, etc., can almost literally walk in to a public school with camera crew in tow and set up in front of the Christmas tree, and give an angry, blistering speech on the awful, insensitive, discriminatory, and ILLEGAL "fact" that the school is not allowed to have a Christmas tree, and get their hopelessly ignorant faithful worked into a lather over it. It actually works. It drives me nuts.

I pass by a public high school on my way home from work every day that, on Sundays, is used as a Presbyterian church. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I'm saying it is a fact. It's a fact that is inconvenient to the Right because it doesn't anger the conservative base. It doesn't light a fire in anyone's belly. Therefore, it's not useful and should be ignored.

On a related note, does anyone think it's ironic that, while public school kids are allowed to wear t-shirts/sweatshirts with Christian messages such as "WWJD: What Would Jesus Do?" on them in school -- despite a determined campaign by the right wing to convince us otherwise -- the growing trend toward school uniforms does, literally and legally, take away that right? It's even more ironic that, since Catholic schools have always required uniforms, kids in those schools have never been allowed to wear such apparel. Where is the outrage?

[Kremer]

4. Santa all I want for x-mas is to make this man go away forever!!!

Gees, he sounds like Saddam, spewing out crazy shit in his final days! Why does he think (in my mind) such trivial things like a nativity scene in some NY school, is the most all encompassing news event that the whole nation is talking about? Who cares! Doesn't he realize the country is totally gripped by this Reagan on the dime argument? I mean it's the buzz in every community. Just like yesterday's top headlines were about some white stuff that falls from the sky called snow. I guess they got like a lot of it on the east cost? Big news you know. And of course, O'reilley knows all. It's headed by the ACLU, aided by secular judges. Of course he offers no proof. What are these judges names? What state/city do they hold court in? Nope! It is the way it is b/c Bill say so!! And his polls? What a joke. A bunch of repugs vote on an issue like gay marriage, which they view as the next apacolypse (s/p) and of course a huge majority votes against it; according to Bill that represents a sampling of America and Americans are outraged. He's either delusional, schizophrenic or on some good LSD!

[Demonaut]

7. Sick of his lame challenges

Challenge and challenges, a constant threat..someone should get medievel on his ass.