The Kennedy Assassination & the Current Political Moment

[reprehensor]

Excerpt from author Joan Mellen's talk in NYC, January 28, 2007;

It happened going on forty-four years ago, and yet the murder of President Kennedy remains simultaneously a subject of fascination and yet is still taboo within mainstream discourse. You will not find a free exchange of views on the Kennedy assassination in the “New York Times” nor, to date, an acknowledgement of the unanswered questions arising from 9/11. This past November, I spoke at a Jewish Senior Center on the Upper West Side where the director, Sara Tornay, remarked that the “Times” had listed the lecture the week before mine, and the lecture the week after. My talk on the Kennedy assassination had slipped down the memory hole. How come? she wondered.

So I'm grateful to the 92nd Street Y for the liberalism of outlook and independence of mind that made this evening possible. The Kennedy assassination will not go away, and I'll try to explain why, heartened as I am by the fact that the former governor of Minnesota, Arne Carlson, gave a speech in November entitled “The JFK Assassination: Its Impact on America's History.” That's my subject as well: How the Kennedy assassination illuminates the present political moment.

The Kennedy assassination is present even in its absence in the recent film, “The Good Shepherd,” a movie about the CIA. Its central character, played by Matt Damon, is based largely on the late head of CIA Counter Intelligence, James Jesus Angleton. The distortions of “The Good Shepherd” return us to the meaning of the Kennedy assassination. James Angleton in real life was the mastermind not, as the film suggests, of the Bay of Pigs (that was Richard Bissell), but of a false defector program that sent spies into the Soviet Union. Among them was one Lee Harvey Oswald. I am basing this talk either on interviews I conducted for “A Farewell to Justice,” or on new interviews I've done since its publication a year or so ago. I am referring as well to some of the more than four million documents released under the JFK Records Collection Act and now residing in Maryland at the National Archives.

It was actually an FBI document that demonstrates that Oswald, indeed one of Angleton's assets in the Soviet Union, communicated back to the CIA through a CIA asset at American Express named Michael Jelisavcic. One of my discoveries for “A Farewell to Justice” was the original of a note that Oswald, arrested in New Orleans for a street fight, handed to the police lieutenant who was questioning him, Francis Martello. One CIA document refers to an FBI "65" file, an espionage file, for Jelisavic, a reference inadvertently unredacted when CIA declassified the document...

Continued...
http://www.joanmellen.net/truth.html

[peacetalksforall]

1. Thank you. Thank you. I am now reminded to follow up on her

writing. About a year ago I saw her on linktv or c-span and was spellbound about how much she knew and how she could weave the past with the present in a most credible way. I will read all and go back and follow up on my good intention to follow her. I appreciate this post and am glad I just checked in.

[reprehensor]

3. You might like this.

Peter Dale Scott is a long-time JFK researcher who has currently turned the bulk of his attention to 9/11. I videotaped him in Dallas giving this talk in November of last year;

"JFK & 9/11 - Insights Gained From Studying Both"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7404458118476453937&hl=en

[bobbie]

16. Ohmygod, thank you again for this video

Peter Dale Scott is one of the few career historians to focus on President Kennedy's murder, and to give it the context it deserves. There is no way to overstate the significance of the President's murder on the US, the world, the present.

He was killed by the CIA because he dared to believe that he worked for the people, not the war-profiteers.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

2. I took a look at five video segments...

...said to be the final, controversial installment of a History Channel presentation on Kennedy assassination CT's. This last one was titled "The Men Who Killed Kennedy." I think the series appeared on the History Channel in '03. It points the finger at LBJ among others.

I know Prison Planet isn't regarded as the most credible source, but they're really just a conduit here. They had nothing to do with the documentary.

These five video segments are interesting to say the least.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/150107ciaman.htm

These videos are also reference/linked in an editorial titled "An American Shadow Points to LBJ" by Jerry Mazza at Online Journal.

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1689.shtml

[bobbie]

17. I like Prison Planet

Lots of good info there.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

21. I don't have a problem...

...with them either. Some DUers do.

[keepCAblue]

4. CIA orchestrated both JFK and RFK assassinations...

Our mainstream press manages to avoid confronting those documents, writing about CIA as if it had no history, but was born in the aftermath of 9/11. They are particularly unwilling to connect our present political morass to past events. Foreign reporters have not been similarly restrained. On a recent fifteen minute magazine segment on BBC-2 this past November, came an extraordinary photograph connecting the assassination of John and Robert Kennedy. (You won't find this information in that other Kennedy movie of this season, “Bobby”).

That press photograph was taken at the Ambassador Hotel on the evening of the assassination of Robert Kennedy where a crowd had gathered to celebrate his victory in the California primary. Pictured standing together were three high level CIA operatives. One was Gordon Campbell, the second in command at JMWAVE, the big CIA station in Miami, from which emanated plans for the sabotage of Cuba and the assassination of Fidel Castro.

With Campbell was a long-time CIA operative named David Sanchez Morales, who worked with CIA propaganda expert David Atlee Phillips, a figure I discuss at length in “A Farewell To Justice.” Morales had assisted Phillips in the 1954 coup against President Arbenz in Guatemala. Morales' lawyer, Robert J. Walton, had quoted his client to the government investigator in Miami, Gaeton Fonzi: “I was in Dallas when we got the son of a bitch, and I was in Los Angeles when we got the little bastard.”

Morales was also close to a CIA operative named Felix Rodriguez, famously present at the murder of Che Guevara in Bolivia, so that he came away with Guevara's wristwatch. Rodriguez was so close to George H. W. Bush that he included photographs with the Bushes in his autobiography. (Present in Dallas that November morning of the 22 nd were not only George H. W. Bush, shortly to depart for Tyler, then return that afternoon to Dallas, but also Richard Nixon. Neither Bush nor Nixon, of course, staged the shooting itself. But it does seem odd that they were in Dallas along with David Atlee Phillips.

snip...

The BBC documentarian, Shane O'Sullivan, tells me that he plans to release a full-length film on the anniversary of Robert Kennedy's assassination in June.I hope he has added further identifications to that photograph. I'll just add that there was a complete blackout in the U.S. media of O'Sullivan's BBC segment. On the website of the London GUARDIAN newspaper, you can find a report entitled, “Did The CIA Kill Bobby Kennedy?”

[Demeter]

5. And By CIA, We Of Course Mean George H W Bush

[keepCAblue]

6. Yes, we most certainly do. n/t

[bobbie]

18. And the bastard had the gall to flog the BS warren report

At Ford's funeral. Ford was despicable. The Bushes are worse. Bush and his CIA are the worst things ever to happen to this country.

[Vidar]

10. Probably true. I tend to favor the FBI for Kin's assassination.

[EVDebs]

7. James Jesus Angleton and Mary Pinchot Meyer cross paths

with JFK assassination

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmeyerM.htm

[reprehensor]

9. whoa

Thanks. I think.

[Ammonium]

11. JFK2

JFK II - The Bush Connection by John Hankey is essential viewing material. Find it on google and watch it plz! Everyone, please watch it!

Then watch JFK jr. also by John Hankey

[reprehensor]

20. You might like this...

I videotaped a presentation by John Hankey at the COPA conference last November in Dallas, the quality is a bit dodgy, but here it is;

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2533884694073597308&hl=en

(He mostly talks about JFKII - according to his research, another "hit".)

[EVDebs]

14. Angleton was running Oswald apparently.

Also, why did Angleton burn Mary Meyer's diary ? Very strange man. Seems these Knights of Malta run the CIA from the git go: Donovan, Casey, Angleton, McCone, ... you get the picture ?

Their Will Be Done
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1983/07/willbedone.html

""Although a papal citation of this sort rarely, if ever, states why a person is inducted into the "Golden Mili-tia," there can be no doubt that Donovan earned his knighthood by virtue of the services he rendered to the Catholic hierarchy in World War II, during which he served as chief of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the wartime predecessor to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). In 1941, the year before the OSS was officially constituted, Donovan forged a close alliance with Father Felix Morlion, founder of a European Catholic intelligence service known as Pro Deo. When the Germans overran western Europe, Donovan helped Morlion move his base of operations from Lisbon to New York. From then on, Pro Deo was financed by Donovan, who believed that such an expenditure would result in valuable insight into the secret affairs of the Vatican, then a neutral enclave in the midst of fascist Rome. When the Allies liberated Rome in 1944, Mor-lion re-established his spy network in the Vatican; fromthere he helped the OSS obtain confidential reports provided by apostolic dele-gates in the Far East, which included information about strategic bombing targets in Japan.""

[AndyTiedye]

8. Kick/Recommend

:kick:

[Octafish]

12. Excellent authority, she is a university professor.

Brave, too.

She quotes JFK after the Bay of Pigs fiasco and puts things in perspective:

"I'll get those CIA bastards if it's the last thing I do."

I'm reading every word.

Thank you, reprehensor!

KR15B

[EVDebs]

13. Octafish

Be sure to check out the assassinationscience.com website re the 'magic bullet' and the Zapruder film and autopsy photos:

http://www.assassinationscience.com/johncostella/jfk/intro/

Something is rotten in Denmark !

[bobbie]

15. Thank you so much for posting this reprehensor

It's one of the best speeches I've ever read

[rman]

19. k&r

[bobthedrummer]

22. James Jesus Angleton from Demopedia

http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Jim_Angleton

Many of US were put on watchlists, some of US were experimented on, others of US were murdered because of people like Mr. Angleton, Richard Helms, J. Edgar Hoover, Lt. Col. Michael Aquino and the other historical assets of what is now known as the BFEE.

Angus Mackenzie was only 43 when he died, he is another investigative reporter who relentlessly researched and shined a guiding light into the darkness of the BFEE's HOMELAND(tm).
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmackenzie.htm

Btw, the hearing for the BFEE's candidate for DNI-former V.Adm. and "information warfare" expert McConnell is about to start.

[EVDebs]

23. Blows my mind that Matt Damon would make a movie glorifying this asshole

Angleton.

[tk2kewl]

24. In a way I am glad the SCOTUS appointed Bush...

In retrospect it seems that if Gore had won, he may very well have been assassinated and neocon Lieberman would have gotten us into the same mess we are in. The PNACers were going to get their war one way or another, and we may not have had Al to help us out now.