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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:13 PM
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The silence that fueled Walter Reed and Abu Ghraib
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-op-bloche11mar11,0,1266240.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions

The silence that fueled Walter Reed and Abu Ghraib

The military's culture of fear allows crises to fester before exploding into public view.

By M. Gregg Bloche, M. GREGG BLOCHE is a professor of law at Georgetown University, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and visiting professor of law at UCLA.
March 11, 2007

WHAT went wrong at Walter Reed Army Medical Center? Congressional hearings and a new commission to study medical care for soldiers and veterans will yield some answers, but in the meantime, a past crisis may provide some clues.

Clinicians correct their mistakes by talking about them, a truth brought home in recent years by multiple studies of medical error in civilian settings. In healthcare, silence is deadly. Military doctors understand this. The culture of armed forces medicine has long encouraged open discussion of clinical and administrative difficulties. Rank has counted for less in such conversations than it typically does in the military. But since 9/11, there's been slippage toward a different ethic — one of denial and evasion. Fear has driven this shift — fear of the consequences of speaking freely.

In 2004 and 2005, I and a colleague, Jonathan Marks, reported that some military doctors covered up detainee abuse — and even helped to plan it — at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay and secret sites elsewhere.

When these stories and others broke, many in military medicine were shocked and ashamed. They tried to talk about what had gone wrong — and what the rules should be at such places as Abu Ghraib — in the face of pressure to support the Bush administration's few-holds-barred approach to detainees suspected of terrorism. But the Army's top doctor, Lt. Gen. Kevin C. Kiley, and his politically appointed civilian overlord, William Winkenwerder, both of whom now face congressional fire for the squalid treatment of rehabbing soldiers at Walter Reed, made it plain to their troops that they couldn't talk about what went on at Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo.

Shortly after the revelations of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib, I was asked by faculty at the military's medical school, the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences, to speak at a forum on the ethics of clinical work with detainees. A tentative date in late summer of 2004 was set. I was then told by the event's sponsors that then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's civilian staff had ordered the session canceled.

Later that year, Maj. Scott Uithol, an Army psychiatrist deployed to Abu Ghraib to help plan interrogations, was to speak at a forensic psychiatry conference on the ethical and other challenges this work posed. The Army Medical Command, headed then as now by Kiley, ordered him not to do so. Kiley ran Walter Reed from 2002 to 2004.

Many other Army doctors gave us similar accounts of being told to keep silent. Several junior officers spoke of threats from above to end their careers and bring criminal charges against anyone who broke with the brass' "don't-ask, don't-tell" approach to mounting evidence of medical complicity in prisoner abuse. A reservist, Maj. David Auch, was scathingly criticized by Pentagon higher-ups when we quoted him in a New York Times article about nightmarish staff and equipment shortages at Abu Ghraib, to the point that a dentist did heart surgery and chest tubes were taken from the dead for reuse.

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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:25 PM
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1. The silence is the troops too they fear the reprisals
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:26 PM
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2. When the leaders at the top are obsessive about loyalty uber alles,
nasty stuff will start to happen.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:30 PM
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3. Support our troops ! (by terrorizing them into silence)
Edited on Sun Mar-11-07 09:36 PM by kenny blankenship
You know, it sounds kinda similar to the way civilians back home over the past five years were told to support our troops:
If you can't say Sieg Heil with a smile, don't say anything at all.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:56 PM
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4. SS shh
Edited on Sun Mar-11-07 10:07 PM by undergroundpanther
Don't break the illusion the government gives a shit about poor or middle class people, the ignorant public needs to believe the rich care and are on their side..

OOh and never forget talking about trauma, rape,torture by American soldiers, murder of Iraqi civilians especially kids, child abuse in America,suffering ,well talking about that ,that's a social taboo makes us look"weak".. Stiff upper lip get the wealthy what they want or die trying, if you get PSTD,better off for us you pretend that trauma never happened. Our careful social engineers made sure American culture denies abuse, rape,trauma hurts and denies it can maim you for life,that abuse bullying and militarism harms the human spirit. Just forgetaboutit all. Nobody will listen they HATE a victim you know and they shoot messengers of the truth no one likes to hear about our cultural abuse problems ..don't they?.

So, Why don't you do as your great grand parents and parents did and shut up about how traumatized life is too? Nobody cares about your pain in the white house or the corporate boardroom unless it makes us money..

And if you are hurt in a war for the wealth's sake just pretend it didn't hurt you for the cameras and if you can't do that for your ruling classes sake, than by all means go drown those memories in a bottle or just kill yourself, or beat your spouse and repeat the trauma cycle so your kids will be ruined , you go to jail. Maybe your kids will enlist to impress you or to"be somebody"and will sign up to die for the elites profits.

You know.. We cannot let the loyal public sheep lining up to die and kill for Mammon ADMIT to each other without shame, there is unspeakable horrors behind the motives of the white house,Or there is Abuse behind the doors of nice houses with cute picket fences happening to young Americans and their parents causing it because we the elites fuck up everyone else s's chances at happiness and control their lives with our unceasing demands for labor to sell itself ever cheap so we get more profits now can we?

We need to look so appealing to the public,so,SELL that unattainable dream of having more stuff makes everyone more happy..We need to sell this "dream" that, WE will make sure only WE the wealthy can OWN and you plebeians will ever "pursue".. We need to equate buying stuff with happiness so we can sell our cancerous economic model of misery wrapped in joy overseas to those poor dregs that love each other more than owning more THINGS..

And these poor dregs who will work like dogs for their families sake,for less pay than Americans. You people want what we the wealthy have, and we are not about to share any of it with you, even though we own more assets than 90% of the world does and all to ourselves ,see It's OURS and you poor lesser people cannot have what we have,we will not share OUR profits with YOU.... We want it all and we don't care who suffers.. Shut up about the truth,wave the flag and boey ,buy ,shop..serve, give more to the elite..(This is the heart of a rich tapeworm elitist .They are what infests washington.)
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 11:11 PM
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5. Do you want to know the REAL reason?
Check out this thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x148513

Bush1 and Dick Cheney started privatizing the US military back in 1991. That privatization of logistics has led to tragedies like the USS Cole bombing, the gouging for basic needs for our soldiers, the loss of billions of our tax dollars in Iraq, and the breakdown of services at Walter Reed.


Now we hear that Halliburton is moving their HQ from Houston to Dubai. Once there, the global fascism will take hold firmer and stronger than at any other point we have witnessed in the past.

And the US will be left bankrupt and broken in too many areas to get it fixed in any expedient way.

No financial problems for the incredibly FLUSH global corporations who have been lining their pockets at our expense for the last twenty years, though.

Want to bet that Halliburton and Bechtel will have Blackwater and other private armies at their disposal while our military struggles to recoup?

We have GOT to stop Halliburton's move of all their documents and paperwork.

Contact Waxman and Congress about Halliburton. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

We cannot let them get away with BANKRUPTING America while BANKROLLING New World Order.

Even the RW and the Freepers will have to notice this.


It's in the 9-11 dungeon.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 12:10 PM
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6. good letter in Stars & Stripes today about this issue
excerpted:

Problem lies with leadership

One of our great past presidents once stated that “The buck stops here.” It appears that our present leadership does not know this term. This leadership, from top to the lower levels, has its own personal agenda, which does not take into consideration how others are affected as their personal agenda is pursued.

Normally, a personal agenda is not planned adequately because, had conflict been adequately planned, they would have accounted for the peripheral supplies, training and infrastructural requirements that needed funding or manning.

Firing the responsible secretary and major general at this point is much too late. This personal agenda mind-set has flowed downhill to the leadership at all levels. These senior “leaders” have been promoted by their respective leaders because they hid the truth, painted pretty pictures of a bad situation or refused to provide top leadership with the real bad news. Our top leaders don’t want to hear that things cannot be accomplished. They just want them accomplished and not be told how it was done. As a result, they can look you straight in the eye and tell you that they knew nothing about the peripheral tragedies, as in the case of Walter Reed.

Some heads always roll. This is a risk our “yes” people face, when someone takes the system to court as finally was done with Walter Reed.


http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=44242
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