Canadian, U.S. and Mexican officials held secretive meeting on integration

[IChing]

Kelly Patterson, CanWest News Service; Ottawa Citizen
Published: Wednesday, February 07, 2007


OTTAWA - Canadian, U.S. and Mexican politicians discussed using "stealth" to overcome public resistance to the integration of the three countries at a confidential meeting last year, according to documents just released under U.S. Freedom of Information laws.

Top military brass, corporate executives and diplomats also attended the meeting in Banff, Alta., where participants discussed everything from the harmonization of food and drug standards, to common immigration policies, and the pooling of energy resources.

The secret guest list of the North American Forum included then-U.S. secretary of defence Donald Rumsfeld, Canadian Chief of Defence Staff Gen. Rick Hillier, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day, Pengrowth Corp. CEO James Kinnear and Lockheed Martin executive Ron Covais.

Presentation outlines for the forum acknowledge that the concept of North American integration - which some call a "North American Union" - is unpopular, and note that it might be tough to sell as a concept.

"While a vision is appealing, working on the infrastructure might yield more benefit and bring more people on board ('evolution by stealth')," the notes said.

"Evolution by stealth" means using regulatory changes, such as food- and drug-safety benchmarks, which don't require parliamentary approval, to lay the infrastructure for North American integration. This allows for change with little or no public debate, critics say.
Media were excluded from the September forum, and Day, who gave a speech at the event, declined to reveal the contents of his talk.

"It was meant as a private meeting," said Melisa Leclerc, a spokeswoman from Day's office, although she conceded he attended "in his capacity as minister for public security.">>>>>snip


http://www.joepolitico.com/politico/joePolitico.html

[whistle]

1. North America also includes Nicaragua, Belize, Guatemala, El Salvador

...Costa Rica, Panama....what did I leave out? Oh boy, lots:

<snip>

North America
Maps and geography of North America itself

Antigua and Barbuda

The Bahamas

Barbados

Belize

Canada

Costa Rica

Cuba

Dominica

Dominican Republic

El Salvador

Greenland (Kalaallit Nunaat)

Grenada

Guatemala

Haiti

Honduras

Jamaica

Mexico

Nicaragua

Panama

Saint Kitts and Nevis

Saint Lucia

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

Trinidad and Tobago

United States of America

http://geography.about.com/library/maps/blrnorthamerica.htm

[IChing]

3. Those are just feudal fiefdoms to the big three.

thanks for the geography lesson,
but I think the revealing portion was the integration
of the military industrial complex as the major players

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

2. Come on, lets go for the whole world.

[Demeter]

4. I Refuse To Believe Canada Would Want Anything LIke This

Canada may be one tenth our population, but they aren't crazy or brainwashed or addled like too many of The USofA.

Mexicans probably wouldn't either, if they ever had a chance to have an opinion.

This sounds like a completely Bushbot idiotic idea.

[GliderGuider]

5. We don't but nobody's asking us.

More on the "Security and Prosperity Partnership" here: http://www.canadians.org/DI/issues/SPP/index.html

This is an attempt to take away Canadian and Mexican sovereignty by stealth, and in effect to hand over all three nations to the corporatists that Eisenhower warned you guys about. General Rick Hillier (spit) is our version of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and every inch the neocon, corporatist praetorian. I also point out the participation of Lockheed and Pengrowth. We all know who Lockheed is, but Pengrowth is more obscure. They are one of North America's largest energy royualty trusts, headquartered in Canada, with major interests in the Canadian Oil Sands, North America's largest untapped petroleum reserve.

At the end of the day, this is all about maintaining energy security for the USA, with full military cooperation.

[IChing]

6. This came from a Canadian paper, by Canadians seaking

what their conservative government was up to via the FIA.

I can't believe Americans would want to go to war with a country that had nothing to do with 911.

I can't believe Americans would allow torture by their government, I can't believe that our governments would lie to us.

I can't believe that they are planning a highway through Texas for this union at this very moment.


Are you saying the story is false?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/04/wroad04.xml

[TrogL]

7. Figures Stockwell Day would be involved

He wants Canada to be US North. He's always hated Canadian values.

[The2ndWheel]

8. It's the same process that created America

It's the same process that is slowly creating the EU. It's the same process that has created every state/corporation history has ever known. As long as we have the energy required to keep such a system together, it's going to happen.