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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:41 PM
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Americans Face A Moral Reckoning
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/03/26/87/

Americans Face A Moral Reckoning
by James Carroll

YOU HAVE been reading “The Sorrow of War” by Bao Ninh, the classic account of what in Vietnam is called the American war. The title of Bao Ninh’s novel captures the feeling of grief and loss that always comes in the wake of violent conflict. Allowing room for fear, grief, and loss must define the dominant experience in Iraq today, where the suffering caused by this American war mounts inexorably.

But sorrow has also emerged as a note of life in the Unites States lately. Many comparisons are drawn between this nation’s misadventures in Iraq and Vietnam, but what you are most aware of is the return of a clenched feeling in your chest, a knot of distressed sadness that is tied to your country’s reiteration of the tragic error. After the chaotic end of the Vietnam War in 1975, you were like many Americans in thinking with relief that the nation would never know — or cause — such sorrow again.

The sorrow is back. Everywhere you go, friends greet one another with a choked acknowledgment of a nearly unspeakable frustration at what unfolds in Iraq. This seems true whether people oppose the war absolutely, or only on pragmatic terms; whether they want US troops out at once, or over time. Even about those distinctions, little remains to be said. Bush’s contemptuous carelessness, his inner circle’s corrupt enabling, the Pentagon’s dependable launching of folly after folly, the Democrats’ ineffectual kibitzing, even your heartfelt concern for the troops — these subjects have exhausted themselves. The “surge” of the January escalation was preceded by the surge of public anguish that resulted in Republican losses in November. That election was a stirring rejection of the administration’s purposes in Iraq, a rejection promptly seconded by the Iraq Study Group. But so what? Bush’s purposes hold steady, and their poison tide now laps at Iran.

Why should you not be demoralized and depressed? But the sorrow of war goes deeper than the mistaken policies of a stubborn president. Next to Bao Ninh’s book on your shelf stands “The Sorrows of Empire” by Chalmers Johnson. That title suggests how far into the bone of your nation the pins of this problem are sunk. In effect, the disastrous American war in Iraq is the text, while America’s militarized way of being in the world is the context. Armed power at the service of US economic sway has made a putative enemy of a vast population around the globe, and that enemy’s vanguard are the terrorists. Violent opposition to the American agenda increases with each surge from Washington, whatever its character. Both text and context reveal that every dream of empire brings sorrow, obviously so to the victims of imperial violence, but also to the imperial dreamers, whether or not they consciously associate with what is being done in their name.

But the word sorrow implies more than grief and loss. The palpable sadness of a people reluctantly at war can push toward a fuller moral reckoning with the condition of a nation that has made its own economic supremacy an absolute value. To take on the question of an economy advanced with little regard for its sustainability, much less for its justice, implies a move away from the focus on Bush’s venality to a broader responsibility. How do the sorrows of war and empire implicate you?

The simplest truth is that the economic system that so benefits you is steadily eroding democracy by transferring the power to shape the future, both within states and among them, to ever smaller elites. At the same time, wealth multiplies and concentrates itself, while impoverishing more and more human beings. Everything from US oil consumption, to global trade structures, to the iron law of cheap labor, to immigration policies, to the psychology of the gated community, to the gated idea of national sovereignty, to the distractions of celebrity culture — all of this supports what is called the American way of life. Yours. If finally seen to be the source of multiple sorrows at home and abroad, can this way of life prompt a deeper confrontation with its true costs and consequences? You need not reduce social ills to personal morality — or let Bush off the hook for his wholly owned war — to acknowledge the complicity attached to mere citizenship in a war-making, imperial nation. In that case, can you measure your sorrow against the word’s other meaning, which is contrition?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:44 PM
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1. K&N
Hi sis, ain't it the truth?

:cry:
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:19 PM
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2. I am sorry I read this - but I did,
and I will not ignore it -

This is the biggest load of crap I have read in a long time.

America - what we do "steadily erodes democracy?" Really??

My dear god, what we did, can do - we stopped cold a dark age just a few decades ago - we did it - no one else, we did. And one judges America from the past six years history???

Well, we go back a little longer than that. And we will continue a little longer too.

People that want to pass judgement on our country better consider our WHOLE history. Cause frankly, any other country that did what we did, once, would be speaking our language right now. We proved we are not the Romans, that we are a thousand times better people. And we have nothing further to prove.

We had an administration that did the wrong thing. They did. To judge America on this, is just wrong- that is just something that has to be taken into context.

Joe




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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:23 PM
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3. Bush is only a reflection of the American people. They stood by and did nothing.
Too busy watching football and going to the Mall to
worry about the murder of the Iraqi people.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:43 PM
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7. Really - did you do nothing?
Did we do nothing - what did we do?? See, I remember screaming my butt off.

However, even if what you say is true - does that negate all the good we did for all the years of our history?

I'll tell you the truth - the Iraqi people, not my main concern. They are supposed to be looking out for themselves, you'd think.

I am deeply worried for our kids that went there as soldiers for us. Deeply. And those are OUR kids that got sent there - and they don't have a say in the politics of the matter.

Joe

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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 05:06 AM
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15. Our work and screaming has done nothing. The Bushafia reigns supreme.
And so many have died.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 08:50 PM
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11. I've been working my ass off for the last 4 years+
trying to make a change...I don't know who YOU are thinking of...


Doug D.
Orlando, FL
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 05:06 AM
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16. But nothing has changed. Nothing. We should have done more.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:04 AM
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18. Not true at all.. We've done plenty...
We've taken back the Congress and Governorships in 06 and we'll get the White House back in 08 and widen our lead everywhere.

Doug D.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:59 PM
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9. Latin America: gunboat diplomacy.
Middle East intervention, to prop up the Shah and the Saudi rulers--not to mention our strongarm guy in Iraq: Saddam Hussein.

The School of the Americas.

The Contras in Nicaragua.

Rightwing death squads in Argentina and El Salvador.

We have propped up dictators all over the globe, while they tortured and murdered their people. US guilt isn't just a matter of the last 6 years or the Bush administration.

We have done some good in the world--the Marshall Plan was a good. Our assistance to the Allies in WWII was such a good. But we have also committed a great deal of evil. Or at least our government has, because it serves the interests of an oligarchy.

Read what General Smedley Butler said about what the US military has almost always been used for.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:11 PM
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10. The thing is - I really understand what we did -
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 07:12 PM by Joe for Clark
In the 20th century - against all odds.

You know, my dad was there when Buchenwald was liberated. His family were targets (mine I guess) assisinated getting out of Portugal a few years earlier. But then, my mom's family was killed in death camps in europe. Most of them were killed.

Our assistance to the allies - buddy, we were the allies.

We were the last hope the world had - and we came thru - so you say we committed a great deal of evil - man, there was no world if we didn't step up back then.

I am saying we get a "do over". I am saying we deserve that.

Joe

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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 09:35 PM
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12. I am not denying that we have done some very real good. But
we also have to acknowledge what our government has used the military for during a large part of our history. (Don’t forget the Cuban-American War and the war the got us Texas and part of California in the 19th century. Our bad behavior didn't just happen in the 20th century. And then there is that small matter of holding on to slavery longer than any other Western country, as well as the lynchings and the failure to enact Civil Rights until 1964.

We are not saintly, and the idea of American exceptionalism, the idea that we are always the good guys, enables way too many Americans to support the sort of evil that BushCo commits. We have to accept that we are human, and that the lust for power and wealth, as well as the impulse to act on prejudice and hatred, are in our nature just as it is in any other people. The only way to prevent our country from committing such evil is to recognize that we are capable of it and to guard against it.

The sort of mindless jingoism that the media played on in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq is the same sort of jingoism that produced "Freedom Fries" and "Freedom Toast."

During WWI, Sauer Kraut was renamed Liberty Cabbage, and American "patriots" went around kicking little Dachshunds, because they were "German dogs." A teacher of high school German was beaten to death--because he taught German.

There is a very dark undercurrent in the American character, and politicians often play on it. It is a combination of jingoism, sanctimonious religiosity, and hatred fueled by prejudice.

Our national character is kind of adolescent. We are, like adolescents, often sweet and goodhearted, but also like adolescents, we don’t think deeply or clearly, our judgment is questionable, and we are given to irrational rages and tantrums when we don’t immediately get our way.

Slimy, unscrupulous politicians and ruthless bastards are very good at playing to the darkest aspects of the national tendencies, and when they do, they can pervert our national goals and policies to the darkest ends. This has happened far too often in our history, and it is something we have to always be alert to and always be prepared to resist.

BTW, my father’s parents were Sicilian immigrants. This country was good to them. My father was at Pearl Harbor. My whole family was military. I was the first member of my family to not join the military. Even my mother was a WWII veteran. My son works for the DOD. I am not anti-American. But just as I get fierce when someone I love does something that violates my most deeply held principles of right and wrong, I get very angry when my country does, too.

And I am decidedly anti-imperialist.


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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:15 PM
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13. Nothing justifies the wrong.
Wrong is wrong.

And you sound like like me -

You know they were not military dogs - they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Mom was the last to die - she died in mid October 2001. Cancer. She is probably the most responsible for my oldest (natural) kid being alive right now.

She was a nurse on the hospital trains - Bulge to Paris - Pretty much single handedly talked my oldest into staying out of this mess- very effectively.


Don't you ever let go of right and wrong - not ever!!


Joe
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 05:54 AM
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17. BTW, I also am hoping Clark gets into the race. He is my choice for the
top of the ticket.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:24 PM
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4. happily offering up the 5th rec.
Never did I ever think it would get this extreme.

All I can offer up at this time is a restatement of last week's prayer. . .

"In the spirit of the collective "We The Sentient Beings of Planet Earth" are creating transparency and accountability in our leadership. We are creating with spirit restoration of truth and justice, as the true American wayyy. We are creating with spirit fairness in our elections. We are creating with spirit a lasting peace on Earth."

"rinse and repeat" until further notice.

Have a nice evening.


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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:24 PM
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5. Indeed we do. Someday it will be karma time for all of us. The rest of the world
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 06:24 PM by cassiepriam
will have something to say to us.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:36 PM
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6. I have the answer.
Today I went to the pet store to buy cat food. When I told the store owner that we had become dependent upon the corporations for our survival, she said it didn't have to be so. We agreed, and talked a bit. She is not buying any food that has ties to outsourced ingredients. They aren't able to track and trace what ingredients are used for these imported foods. And we talked about community. When it all goes wrong, we have community. Don't we? We do. It's not like we can't survive. We do what we always did. Each of us contributes at the smaller level. My biggest fear has been that we have paved the planet over. We're living on tenth of an acre plots. But there is hope. All is not lost. We turn back into our communities. I am not an optimist. But when times get rough I am a survivor. Take inventory.

We've gone too far. Where we had the Model T, we have the Lexus. Where we had the cat in the barn, we have canned food from a half planet away. Now it's time to stop and look back. And to ask why and what. Who is my neighbor, and what can I do. How can I give. No more hype, just reality.

Community. Not corporation.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:50 PM
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8. That is a good post!!
If I might say - I do think in the end it is about Karma.

Anyway, good post!!

Joe
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 09:49 AM
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20. And America has some seriously
BAD karma coming her way...
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 12:37 AM
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14. I Disagree With The Statement
..."You need not reduce social ills to personal morality."

In the end, personal morality, as expressed through personal actions as well as—one always hoped—a truly democratic government & a truly responsible economy, is the only genuine & non-coercive way to deal with social ills.

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CRH Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:38 AM
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19. In the final paragraph, the concept so foreign to most Americans, ...

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The simplest truth is that the economic system that so benefits you is steadily eroding democracy by transferring the power to shape the future, both within states and among them, to ever smaller elites. At the same time, wealth multiplies and concentrates itself, while impoverishing more and more human beings. Everything from US oil consumption, to global trade structures, to the iron law of cheap labor, to immigration policies, to the psychology of the gated community, to the gated idea of national sovereignty, to the distractions of celebrity culture — all of this supports what is called the American way of life. Yours. If finally seen to be the source of multiple sorrows at home and abroad, can this way of life prompt a deeper confrontation with its true costs and consequences? You need not reduce social ills to personal morality — or let Bush off the hook for his wholly owned war — to acknowledge the complicity attached to mere citizenship in a war-making, imperial nation. In that case, can you measure your sorrow against the word’s other meaning, which is contrition?
"
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Most people can't see beyond their desires for more and more consumption in every aspect of their lives, from necessities of food and clothing, to entertainment, to the electronic homes of today. All of this clouds the vision and reason and obscures the price paid by others for our individual affluence and often frivolous consumption.

The best cure for Americans would be to live among the citizens of a third world country, for one year. Then they could very well understand the final paragraph above.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 03:12 PM
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21. my 14-year-old nephew said the other day...
...that he is deeply ashamed of his country, America. He said that everyone in his 8th grade class is deeply ashamed of their home, America.

Boy, did we jump on him, pointing out the difference between our current government and our country as a whole and providing a little instruction on the concept of America as a beacon of liberty and opportunity for millions of people the world over. People still do risk their lives to come here, even after all our warts.

I sure worry that kids have been conditioned to see only the bad. I suppose I am guilty of not pointing out to them while ranting about Bushco that the current administration is NOT the whole of our government and our history.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 03:31 PM
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22. Oh, dearest Grasswire
Coming to grips with the shame, rather than denying it, is part of the healing process. Until the American myths are shattered into pieces, there will be no redemption.

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:15 PM
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23. was that supposed to be sarcasm?
If not, then tell it to all those who have shed their blood in the defense of liberty.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:40 PM
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24. Some years ago, at a Hallenbad in Kassel
I struck up a conversation with a 13 year-old bi-racial German girl. She lamented how ASHAMED she was to be German. I grabbed her by the arm and insisted we sit on the rim of the pool to talk about it. She told me about her education of the Holocaust. I told HER that as a 13 year-old SHE needed to be aware, but was not complicit in any way. Her parents could NEVER say what I said to her without disapprobation.

It is a GOOD THING that your kid is looking at the BIG PICTURE. He has smelled the stench in the air and seen the ashes on the windowsill. In doing so he can CHOOSE NOT TO BE COMPLICIT.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 08:16 AM
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25. Yes. (n/t)
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 08:26 AM
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26. And add the destruction of the very earth....
...to the last paragraph. Our gluttonous demand for energy, for cheap and easy, for big and bigger ever-fueling our imperialist wars-for-resources/profits....

As for "the good we have done...." It is not a game, with a score-card. What good we have done does not bring one subtract from one death we've caused, one tortured human we've destroyed. There is no "offset" - no one comes back to life or wholeness.

Contrition alone does no good. We can be contrite and continue to buy clothes made with near-slave labor, continue to kill and pollute and consume.

Until we are ready to face the inherent limits to growth/consumption/capitalism nothing will change.

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