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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 09:53 PM
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The Police and the Spy Unit
Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s city attorneys are fighting the release of police surveillance records related to the 2004 Republican National Convention in New York City by arguing that the public might misinterpret them or the news media will “fixate upon and sensationalize” them. Those are the risks we take in a democracy.

A review by our colleague Jim Dwyer of court records and some of the still-secret documents tells a stunning story. The police may have overreached and misused surveillance authority in a wide undercover effort to head off disruptions. In the months leading to the convention, officers were dispatched around the United States, and to Canada and Europe. The so-called R.N.C. Intelligence Squad, run with the help of a former senior C.I.A. official, was supposed to sniff out potential troublemakers, but it seems to have spent a lot of effort infiltrating and compiling dossiers on groups that clearly posed no danger. The Times and the New York Civil Liberties Union are trying to have the files unsealed to determine whether any laws were broken or civil liberties trampled in this effort.

The police maintain that they successfully protected the city from potential terrorism and the kind of violence that occurred in Seattle in 1999 during a meeting of the World Trade Organization. If they did that — legally — they should be eager to prove it.

Unfortunately, this dispute fits a deeply troubling pattern of Mayor Bloomberg’s tenure, which has been exemplary in so many other ways. The mayor sometimes does not quite seem to have made the transition from running a privately owned company, in which his word was law, to leading a major city, in which the voters serve as both board of directors and major shareholders.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/27/opinion/27tue2.html
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:19 PM
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1. The GOP controlled CIA domestic spying unit is now in Denver
Just in time for the '08 Democratic convention. Makes commuting to harassments that much easier.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:22 PM
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2. Do you have a source on that? I'm curious.
Thanks! :)
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:25 PM
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3. Per Operation CHAOS, suppression of legit dissent is illegal
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 10:27 PM by EVDebs
yet that is what CHAOS and Mockingbird were/are all about then/now

CIA Plans to Shift Work to Denver
Domestic Division Would Be Moved

By Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 6, 2005; Page A21
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/05/AR2005050501860.html

Please read this about Operation CHAOS
http://www.serendipity.li/cia/lyon.html

This kind of suppression of dissent is illegal and needs oversight. What does Congress do to protect us ? Nothing ?
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:29 PM
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4. Excellent.
:yourock:

I appreciate it!
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:31 PM
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5. A better question, who funds this kind of domestic spying operation ?
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 10:35 PM by EVDebs
Investigate the CIA/Foggo/Wilkes/GOP-moneylaundering that Lam was beginning to pull the lid off of.

This is the Octopus that Danny Casolaro and Gary Webb were investigating too btw.

I hear that a 'Christian' girl Monica Goodling is now taking the 5th and not going to speak to Congress about what leads up to this funding via the obstuctions of justice that the Lam removal brought about.

As a Christian I've had enough. I want to turn over the moneychangers tables in the Temple ... The time is now. Any DUer who reads this please pass along the info.

The GOP has gone too far...they're endangering us all by circumenting legitimate intell ops and hardwiring in their own crap source 'curveballs' and Chalabis; Brewster Jennings and collateral damage like Plame get screwed while Wilkes and Uncle Bucky make $ off the system. Well the system has to change and this is the time.

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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 12:19 AM
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6. Amen to that.
The GOP has gone too far, and basically its been a war on legit intelligence gathering. I really respect any intelligence professionals who have weathered the storm and continued to try to protect this nation from REAL threats, not GOP fabricated bullshit fantasy threats.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 05:50 AM
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7. How Can Spying Be "Misinterpreted?"
Spying by police, no less. The line between disruption and dissent seems to have vanished somewhere.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 11:24 AM
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8. Deliberate misrepresentation and threat analysis
Which is why the NSA is busy harassing Quakers (because Quakers posted the '14 Permanent Bases' map on their website

http://www.fcnl.org/iraq/bases.htm

and the GOP can't stand their lies exposed: no, we won't stand down if Iraqis stand up).

Furthermore, Quakers and the Ragin' Grannies

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raging_Grannies

are hardly what rational people would call violent groups, along with Code Pink

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/resources/18706res20041202.html

Military spying, as with MLK Jr, domestically have been tailing the Grannies and students at places like UC Santa Cruz (all these instances are verifiable).

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