Call that humiliation? (Monthy Python's Terry Jones)

[The Count]

Call that humiliation?


No hoods. No electric shocks. No beatings. These Iranians clearly are a very uncivilised bunch
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2047128,00.html
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And this brings me to my final point. It is clear from her TV appearance that servicewoman Turney has been put under pressure. The newspapers have persuaded behavioural psychologists to examine the footage and they all conclude that she is "unhappy and stressed".

What is so appalling is the underhand way in which the Iranians have got her "unhappy and stressed". She shows no signs of electrocution or burn marks and there are no signs of beating on her face. This is unacceptable. If captives are to be put under duress, such as by forcing them into compromising sexual positions, or having electric shocks to their genitals, they should be photographed, as they were in Abu Ghraib. The photographs should then be circulated around the civilised world so that everyone can see exactly what has been going on.

[Fermezlabush]

1. No one expects the Spanish Inquisition...

[Don Davis]

9. No one expects the Alberto Gonzales !

http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=657

[Bluerthanblue]

2. count on the comedians to be the truthtellers- thanks for posting

this article-

I'm glad to hear someone with a voice and a spine, speaking out from the other side of the pond-

peace
blu

[Briar]

3. There are some

For example, Ronan Bennett had an equally good piece yesterday:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2046116,00.html

Any Answers (broadcast after BBC Radio 4's Any Questions) was also enlighening. The BBC is playing its role as national spine stiffener at the moment, but callers in to this programme showed quite a range. There was the gentleman, probably a Daily Mail reader, who proposed exploding a nuclear bomb 30,000 feet above Tehran (even when a slightly shocked Jonathan Dimbleby asked about his compassion for the generations of fall-out victims after, his patriotism remained stalwart and evidently resistant to anything of the kind). Then another gentleman declared that all Iranians are deceitful and sly and do not know the meaning of the word honesty. However, an encouraging number of callers were disgusted with the situation and saw a clear comparison between this incident and the west's treatment of kidnap victims in Guantanamo and the secret torture centres. Looks like the effort to prepare the nation for possible military action with Iran (if that is the intention, and it is clearly the hope of Perle and Bolton, both given a platform by the national media) has quite a hill to climb.

[Bluerthanblue]

6. lying and deceiving- twisting "truth" to

fit desires doesn't lead to a very 'trusting' relationship.

We are living in societies that continue to exist because of "DENIAL"- pretending to believe the propaganda, because it is 'easier'-

I'm glad to hear that people are speaking up. I hope more will. The distractions of 'life'- the 'out of sight out of mind' apathy about what our nations are doing has GOT to stop.

This has to stop!-

peace,
blu

[OnyxCollie]

4. Watching MSNBC yesterday,

I noticed the news crawl mention the "confession" of the British soldier. Funny, I don't recall them putting quotation marks around confession when it was reported Kalid Sheik Muhammed "confessed" to 29 acts of terrorism.

Coincidentally, while I was talking about this with the girlfriend, the news crawl reported that KSM had said he had been tortured.

It's not fascism when we do it.:sarcasm:

Also, I recalled that when bush was governor of Texas, he had commuted the death sentence of serial killer Henry Lee Lucas. Lucas had been convicted in ten murders, but had confessed to 600. He later recanted. According to a CBS News article from 1998:

In separate votes, the board advised Bush to give Lucas a 270-day reprieve and to commute the death sentence to a lesser penalty.

"The first question I ask in each death penalty case is whether there is any doubt about whether the individual is guilty of the crime," Bush said.

"While Henry Lee Lucas is guilty of committing a number of horrible crimes, serious concerns have been raised about his guilt in this case," the governor said.

Think Chimpy will do the same for KSM? Neither do I.

[Briar]

5. Or David Hicks' confession

which was accompanied by a declaration that he hadn't been abused...

[Canuckistanian]

8. If "terrorists" do it, it's called an "admission"

If captured British or American troops do it, it's called "a coerced confession".

Face it, "confessions" done while a prisoner is still confined to a facility where torture is known to be used, is a "coerced confession".

To assume anything else is stupidity.

[Vidar]

7. "Always look on the bright side of life." kick, ball change...