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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 10:50 AM
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Wm F. Buckley: The Waning of the GOP
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William F. Buckley on Iraq: "There are grounds for wondering whether the Republican party will survive this dilemma"
Posted by Joshua Holland on April 30, 2007 at 8:06 AM.

Some on the left think that the disasters of the Bush era -- and the deep dissatisfaction that has accompanied them -- might lead, finally, to a widespread repudiation of the conservative backlash.

Apparently, that thought is not only on the minds of liberals. William F. Buckley, Godfather of the New Right, ponders the situation in which his movement finds itself in the National Review:




The Waning of the GOP

The political problem of the Bush administration is grave, possibly beyond the point of rescue. The opinion polls are savagely decisive on the Iraq question. About 60 percent of Americans wish the war ended — wish at least a timetable for orderly withdrawal. What is going on in Congress is in the nature of accompaniment. The vote in Congress is simply another salient in the war against war in Iraq. Republican forces, with a couple of exceptions, held fast against the Democrats’ attempt to force Bush out of Iraq even if it required fiddling with the Constitution. President Bush will of course veto the bill, but its impact is critically important in the consolidation of public opinion. It can now accurately be said that the legislature, which writes the people’s laws, opposes the war.

Meanwhile, George Tenet, former head of the CIA, has just published a book which seems to demonstrate that there was one part ignorance, one part bullheadedness, in the high-level discussions before war became policy. Mr. Tenet at least appears to demonstrate that there was nothing in the nature of a genuine debate on the question. What he succeeded in doing was aborting a speech by Vice President Cheney which alleged a Saddam/al Qaeda relationship which had not in fact been established.

It isn’t that Tenet now doubts the lethality of the terrorists. What he disputed was an organizational connection which argued for war against Iraq as if Iraq were a vassal state of al Qaeda. A measure of George Tenet’s respect for the reach and malevolence of the enemy is his statement that he is puzzled that Al Qaeda has not, since 2001, sent out “suicide bombers to cause chaos in a half dozen American shopping malls on any given day.” By way of prophecy, he writes that there is one thing he feels in his gut, which is that “Al Qaeda is here and waiting.”

But beyond affirming executive supremacy in matters of war, what is George Bush going to do? It is simply untrue that we are making decisive progress in Iraq. The indicators rise and fall from day to day, week to week, month to month. In South Vietnam there was an organized enemy. There is clearly organization in the strikes by the terrorists against our forces and against the civil government in Iraq, but whereas in Vietnam we had Hanoi as the operative headquarters of the enemy, we have no equivalent of that in Iraq, and that is a matter of paralyzing importance. All those bombings, explosions, assassinations: we are driven to believe that they are, so to speak, spontaneous.

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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 10:54 AM
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1. George W. Bush's most colossal business failure EVER.
Hey, he went out with style though, eh? :eyes:

He "ran America like a business," just as he promised. Ironic that that appears to be the only time he's ever told the truth.

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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 10:56 AM
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2. The * Regime is IMO a third party without a name.
It doesn't represent the principles of classic conservatism or republican values. It is a fascist rightwing junta using the mantle of the republican party for its disguise.

I wish Buckley had gone farther with his restrained criticism.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 11:21 AM
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5. You're correct. There is nothing conservative about this party.
The Democratic Party is now the conservative party. How weird is that? We do have, however, a conservative side and a more liberal side within the party. The GOP is becoming as extreme in its way as communism is on the other end of the spectrum. We are the party that still believes in the Constitution, the GOP believes in hierarchical authoritarianism. Much of their control is reinforced with inducement into corruption and the subsequent threat of blackmail. Now, hmmm..., who does that remind me of?
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 11:01 AM
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3. We should be so lucky...
We may get a complete reinvention of the Republican Party, but I doubt it will die completely. With any luck though, they'll be out of power for another 45 years. It'll take that long to fix the damage.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 11:17 AM
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4. And you, William, will shoulder much of the blame
You not only sat on the sidelines saying nothing as Bush drove your party into the toilet, you actually cheerled the criminal activity.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 10:08 PM
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11. Oh, I'm sure he voted for Gore and Kerry . . .
:eyes:
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 11:52 AM
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6. "..one part ignorance, one part bullheadedness.."
Add 2 parts Corruption, 3 parts NeoCon Global Hegeonomy, and 3 parts Radical Christian Fundamentalism.

Shake well.

Bake at 375 for 10-15 years.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 01:46 PM
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7. very important reading
and posted in red letters on the Drudge Report.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 01:55 PM
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8. Why, how shrill and uncivilized of you, William.
You sound just like an America-hating dirty hippie.

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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 02:57 PM
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9. They're not against the war. They're against losing the war.
Buckley speaking sense at long last is really just another tactic, another lie.
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winga222 Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 03:42 PM
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10. Welcome to the DU! n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 05:42 AM
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13. and 'losing" rings with lots of Dems also---
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 10:27 PM
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12. I have to wonder why those 40%
aren't beatin' down to their nearest recruiting station, signing up for bush's war if they aren't in the 60% who wishes it ended.

This isn't fucking brain surgery..We all know damn well what happened. The bushits wanted WAr On Iraq and the corporatemediawhores delivered in lockstep.

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