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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 10:32 PM
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PAUL KRUGMAN: Lies, Sighs and Politics
In Tuesday’s Republican presidential debate, Mitt Romney completely misrepresented how we ended up in Iraq. Later, Mike Huckabee mistakenly claimed that it was Ronald Reagan’s birthday.

Guess which remark The Washington Post identified as the “gaffe of the night”?

Folks, this is serious. If early campaign reporting is any guide, the bad media habits that helped install the worst president ever in the White House haven’t changed a bit.

You may not remember the presidential debate of Oct. 3, 2000, or how it was covered, but you should. It was one of the worst moments in an election marked by news media failure as serious, in its way, as the later failure to question Bush administration claims about Iraq.

Throughout that debate, George W. Bush made blatantly misleading statements, including some outright lies — for example, when he declared of his tax cut that “the vast majority of the help goes to the people at the bottom end of the economic ladder.” That should have told us, right then and there, that he was not a man to be trusted.......

http://freedemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/06/paul-krugman-lies-sighs-and-politics.html
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 10:50 PM
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1. that was so spot on and highlights how the msm spins for certain people
who look the part or sound tough. not if they had the facts right or at all.
I am very concerned that they will cause us more Bush candidates to win, the wrong ones who are disasters in the making rather than doing intellegent and knowledgable analysis
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 05:45 AM
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2. The ability to rattle off soundbites confidently and optomistically is "Presidential"
If a candidate sounds like he or she believes in what they are saying the media will not check into whether or not it is true or even makes any sense.

If he or she seems hesitant or appears to be (God forbid) actually thinking while speaking, the media pounces.

Fortunately for Romney, and I'm sure he's aware of it, most Americans are probably blythely unaware that the weapons inspectors were in Iraq. Certainly most Republican primary voters do not know this and if confronted with the real facts would claim that it is a lie propegated by, take your pick NBC, the New York Times, George Soros or Cindy Sheehan designed to besmirch the reputation of the greatest President ever.

Reporting who sighed or who seemed bright and confident or who seemed uncomfortable with the format is a hell of a lot easier than actually analyzing what these candidates say.



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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 05:59 AM
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3. You'd think other journalists would read this (and you know they do) and
feel ashamed. I'm just angry.:grr:
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:08 AM
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4. MSM backs the two candidates most beholden to the corps
Thier gaffes will be largely ignored while the candidates who would actually work for the people will have every syllable parsed and twisted, even though said candidate is right.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:13 AM
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5. Romney is Bush's boy
The media have gotten the hint though they blanch at sticking their necks out for this mediocre stooge. So they have Thompson to play around with for a while while they rebuild the dolt's coronation ascendancy. Maybe even settle for Thompson, but that would take a lot of sincere effort by Thompson and a continued slide for Romney. The Bushes have not yet had to settle for even a plan B. The lickspittle nature of the MSM will cooperate on its sheer momentum of moral descent.
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:47 AM
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6. Not sure if it was the same debate but Bush said a portion of military would
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 10:47 AM by Feles Mala
not be available, thanks to Clinton, if there were an emergency... This is the same military that deposed the Taliban in three weeks.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 05:04 PM
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7. MCM coverage of Presidential Debates, not to mention races in general is the problem.
Their goal is to dumb the American People down to the point of ignorance of what's really important. It's the only way corrupt, incompetents such as Bush/Cheney can come to power.

Just as Al Gore points out in his bestseller "The Assault on Reason", Bush/Cheney are only symptoms of a much larger problem.

I believe our Achilles Heel as a nation, is the totally dysfunctional way our society disseminates information ignoring vital facts and elevating the superficial; see Paris Hilton for latest example.

This dysfunction with information is the primary reason Bush/Cheney are in power, the primary reason our armed forces are running around chasing mirages in the desert of Iraq, the primary reason New Orleans was left to drown, the primary reason Earth itself is dangerously close to several catastrophic tipping points from Global Warming/Climate Change per NASA, etc.

I sincerely believe nothing will change for the better for so long as the MCM insists on betraying the American People. For so long as they insist on being corporations first and Americans second, the people will continually be offered a bitter cup to drink from.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 06:01 PM
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8. The Daily Howler's analysis of Krugman's column, most excellent!
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 06:02 PM by Uncle Joe
There is much more on link

http://dailyhowler.com/

<snip>

First: Yes! Candidate Bush did “get within chad-and-butterfly range of the presidency” because of the bad media habits Krugman discusses this morning. This very week, we got an e-mail saying that the Bob Herberts of the world didn’t send Bush to the White House; everyone knows that Chief Justice Rehnquist’s Supreme Court did that, our e-mailer said. But Campaign 2000 would never have been reached the Court if the press corps hadn’t misbehaved, for two years, in the manner Krugman describes. Will we ever get the simplest parts of this logic clear in our heads? If we have to wait for help from our “liberal” journals, the answer is clear on that: No.

Second: Krugman focuses on Bush’s October 3 misstatements about the shape of his budget plan. Without any doubt, Bush’s misstatements on this topic that evening were vast—and Krugman had explained this material in his columns three times in the previous month, quite heroically. (His colleagues almost wholly ignored him.) But let’s be sure we’re clear on our history: Bush also made endless, howling misstatements that night about his own prescription drug plan. Indeed, Bush and Gore’s exchange on that high-interest subject may have been the longest and most dramatic exchange in presidential debate history. (For a fuller discussion, see links below.) Repeatedly, Bush said or implied that Gore was lying—as Gore correctly described Bush’s plan. But as with the tax plan, so with the drugs; “few news reports pointed out” these humongous misstatements by Bush. Amazingly, the New York Times never told readers who had been right on the facts.

Third: We’ll quibble with Krugman on one point only—on his statement that the “news media failure” in Campaign 2000 was “as serious, in its way, as the later failure to question Bush administration claims about Iraq.” There are many ways to compare such episodes, but we’d have to say the press corps’ misconduct was actually worse during Campaign 2000. Yes, the press corps failed in some ways in the run to Iraq, and some of the work was egregious, or close to it. But these were largely failures of omission and emphasis—and the true story about Iraq was fairly hard to get at that time. In Campaign 2000, by contrast, the press corps simply invented bogus stories for twenty straight months, repeating them in near-perfect unison. Regarding Iraq, the result was the same; when the press corps kept Gore from the White House, they pretty much doomed us to war with Iraq. But the misconduct was much more willful in 1999 and 2000 than it would be in the run to Iraq. But so what? To this very day, Krugman is the only journalist on his level who is willing to discuss this crucial part of our recent history. Don’t turn to Bob Herbert or Joe Klein. And don’t waste your time waiting for E. J.

So Oh. Our. God! How the analysts cheered today, when Krugman told readers that they “should remember” the press corps breakdown after that crucial debate. They cheered because Campaign 2000 is part of a 15-year story—a story voters must understand if they hope to understand their own politics. Indeed, Eric Boehlert and Jamison Foser have been telling an earlier part of that story in the past two weeks, in their superlative work at Media Matters; our analysts have cheered their postings too. Here’s the shape of that 15-year story—the story the “press” refuses to tell, the story the public must fathom:

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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:25 PM
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9. The Howler is the go-to site
to learn about the media's complicity in putting a moron into the White House. If you haven't seen Bob's work, go to Daily Howler and do a search of the site for gore, 2000, media. It's a horrible tale that needs to be heard.
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