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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 10:52 PM
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Bev Conover: What We Can And Must Do
Edited on Mon Jan-05-04 10:53 PM by 0rganism
What we can and must do

By Bev Conover
Online Journal Editor & Publisher


January 5, 2004—People constantly ask us for solutions to the nightmare we find ourselves in, as if we could wave a magic wand and make it disappear. There is no magic wand. There is only resolve, commitment, risk and hard work.

Collectively, we the people hold the power. But holding the power means nothing if you don't exercise it and it is the exercising of it that the Bush regime and the corporations are bent on preventing you from doing. And by not exercising it, you not only are acquiescing in your own enslavement, but in whatever evil they are bent on perpetrating.

We have a bogus president who used bogus attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon to declare a bogus war on terrorism, and who has rained down death and destruction on two sovereign nations—Afghanistan and Iraq—for bogus reasons. If you let him, his corporate cohorts or even his possible replacement get away with this, they will rain death and destruction down on us and more sovereign nations for more bogus reasons.

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More: http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/010504Conover/010504conover.html

This article includes 8 fairly specific things that We The People can do to avert impending disaster, and was strongly recommended by Mike Malloy on his Monday night show.
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fabius Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:41 PM
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1. Good "call to arms" except for this part...
Quoting Bev Conover:

"We must form small community groups to wake up as many as possible of our aspartamed, fluoridated, chlorined, overvaccinated, overmedicated, brainwashed fellow Americans as possible." (emphasis added)

Ok I generally agree with her, but the problem does NOT lie in the fluoridation and chlorination of water, OK? I am a water supply engineer and you can trust me on this one. These are added only as a matter of public health. Not to brainwash anybody.

So this is off-topic a little but our side really needs to be the party of facts and science. The other guys are the party of superstition and the other "s" word.

Hope this is reapectful enough to not get me in trouble with the mods again. :)
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 04:18 AM
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2. Taking this further off topic
since you're someone who should know: Is the purpose of water fluoridation just to get fluoride to those people who don't brush their teeth with fluoride toothpaste enough; or is it thought that even people who use fluoride toothpaste a couple of times a day could benefit from more fluoride?
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 12:57 AM
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3. Well, I interpret it a bit differently
I don't see her saying that flouride and chlorine are brainwashing implements, anymore than medication or aspartame. It's more of a list of things we've been, in her apparent opinion, manipulated to think we need or want. I'm aware that there are some people who think that water flouridation is used for mind control, but Conover doesn't seem to be making such an argument.

For one thing, there are insufficient exclamation points!!!!!!!!!

There are two serious messages implanted in us by our culture from an early age: people are inherently defective, and consumption brings safety from defect. Thus, if one feels unsafe or uncomfortable, there's a treatment you can buy at the store, or maybe you should talk it over with a therapist. Never address the core assumption that one might not be inherently unsafe or defective, because that undermines a whole laundry list of conclusions which follow from that simple premise.

You are overweight --> you need to eat more aspartame instead of sugar.
Your teeth will decay --> you need water flouridation.
You are incapable of surviving exposure to shared water --> you need chlorine.
You could get the flu --> quick, take this vaccine.
You are depressed --> here's a prescription for expensive drugs.

Every off-the-cuff prognosis I've listed on the left leads to some kind of treatment as suggested on the right, but all those prognoses are based on the assumption that you are born defective.

Instead of addressing real problems of obesity, toxicity and disease vectors in society, these problems instead become a platform to launch one snake-oil pyramid scheme after another. And they all stem from a notion of original defect, which is easy enough to put over on a population that largely subscribes to an idea of original sin.

That's my take, anyway.
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