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fencesitter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 02:15 PM
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Mitt’s No J.F.K.
Modo in today's NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/opinion/09dowd.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin

******The problem with Mitt is not his religion; it is his overeager policy shape-shifting. He did not give a brave speech, but a pandering one. Disguised as a courageous, Kennedyesque statement of principle, the talk was really just an attempt to compete with the evolution-disdaining, religion-baiting Huckabee and get Baptists to concede that Mormons are Christians.

“J.F.K.’s speech was to reassure Americans that he wasn’t a religious fanatic,” Mr. Krakauer agreed. “Mitt’s was to tell evangelical Christians, ‘I’m a religious fanatic just like you.’”

The backdrop, he said, is “the wickedly fierce competition between Mormons and Southern evangelicals to convert people.”

The world is globalizing, nuclear weapons are proliferating, the Middle East is seething, but Republicans are still arguing the Scopes trial.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 02:17 PM
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1. Good article by Dowd, excellent quote by Krakauer on Mittens--spot-on.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 02:31 PM
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2. Mittens: the world's emptyest suit.
Not just today, but in nearly 50 years of involvement with US politics, I can't recall an emptyer suit.
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insanad Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 12:34 AM
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10. Mitt Doll with exchangable values costumes, batteries not included
Whenever I see Mitt Romney, even from when he was helping SLC with it's Olympic Games challenges I get the distinct impression of a very slick used car salesman and the American people are the shills. Maybe it isn't his oily countenence and nasaly tone but more the sanctimonious sneer and practiced nods. He comes from a long line of Mormons who've perfected this "Public Persona" in their weekly meetings, BYU and televised broadcasts. That half turn at the podium and head nod that suggests he's coming down a notch to casual, "I'm going to let you in on the secret" pose.

I grew up Mormon and saw this all the time, especially in the church heirarchy. The more they blink their eyes in a practiced show of "Deep spiritual sincerity" and soften the voice to a BYU pentameter and sing songy tone, the bigger the lie they're telling. The Mormon leaders are so skilled at this tactic andit's been practiced from the inception of the church by their biggest leader/liar, Joseph Smith. Brigham Young mastered it better than any in his time and his manipulation of the press and our govt. for his dirty and corrupt secrets and power is legendary. The documentation is overwhelming on all these counts. I believe Mitt Romney is just the latest puppet mouthpiece in this church's history of lies, manipulation, and absolute distortion of truth, history, or fact. They invented obsfucation. Go to http://www.mormoncurtain.com / and do a little browsing.

The Mormon people aren't bad, just their doctrine and religious practices. Beware America if you are foolish enough to support or elect such a charletan. He has been conditioned from birth to close his eyes to reality, fact, or reason. He'll jettison loyalties faster than grease through a goose when it comes to holding true to any value he professes at at the moment. He's a puppet of the Repub. party and I highly suspect under all that makeup is JEB BUSH, just waiting for his turn in the drivers seat.

Pinnochio wants to become a "Real Boy" but he just can't stop lying and so his nose grows and grows. He can't help it, he comes from a long line of such purveyors of obfuscation and revisionist history and he's been so well trained in the art that it's second nature to change positions, to re position his position, to deny, cover up and feign ignorance at the lies or inconsistancies. Yes, he's a dyed in the wool McMormon, but that makes him ripe for the kind of distortion necessary to be the perfect wooden puppet for the Republican Puppetmasters.

If you want to know how many Mormon Leaders have practiced "lying for the Lord" in the past, here's an in-depth link. This man's experience is very common among those who try to leave or make sense of the church doctrine. http://www.exmormon.org/whylft149.htm

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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 02:40 PM
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3. Great article. It's missing one idea about JFK vs Mitt. Mitt hates many Americans.
JFK was about Camelot while Mitt is about the plantation on the hill where most Americans would not be invited.

When Mitt talks about the fact that he shares the same family values with evangelicals, what he's really saying is that he hates gay people. This, is not what JFK would say. Or even, Jesus.

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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 02:45 PM
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4. As I recall
Romney was the one who recently stated that he would absolutely not consider having a well qualified Muslim in his cabinet.

So much for his views on religious freedom.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 03:07 PM
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5. Joseph Smith ran for president
There ya go.
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Ronnie Roach Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 03:22 PM
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6. Mormons are not the problem, Mit is.
To me, The Mormon church is like any other denominations. I think Calvinists are pretty strange, but that's my opinion. Naw, I find Mit just another political hack in the American montage of opportunists. I don't who his campaign manager is, but if he really wants to get elected? He better support the majority of this nation who want to impeach the Bush crime family, other wise...Who cares?

Speaking of impeachment....
http://www.neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/videolinks/videolink_354.html
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rosetta6 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 05:17 PM
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7. No one since JFK has been "JFK"
President Kennedy genuinely stood up for the people and against war profiteering in Vietnam ("Disaster Capitalism") or elsewhere (e.g., Cuba). The military industrial complex, that Ike warned about as he passed the baton/hand grenade, swatted President Kennedy aside and will not tolerate another like him.

That's why nothing has been the same since November 22, 1963. And why Mitt's no JFK. And why an actual populist like Kucinich is made invisible by the Corporate Capitalists and their PR department "mainstream media."

Note to self: "Welcome to DU."


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fencesitter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 09:37 PM
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8. "self" acknowledged....
Yes welcome! 1st post woohoo!
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rosetta6 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 11:03 PM
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9. Thanks fencesitter
It's even nicer coming from someone else.
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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 12:56 AM
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11. The one line is CLASSIC:
Edited on Mon Dec-10-07 01:05 AM by Hawaii Hiker
"“J.F.K.’s speech was to reassure Americans that he wasn’t a religious fanatic,” Mr. Krakauer agreed. “Mitt’s was to tell evangelical Christians, ‘I’m a religious fanatic just like you.’”

Yes sir, Mitt is a religious fanatic whose presidency (and this is quite a feat) would be a worse one than Bush....
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