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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 05:18 PM
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Bush's "Super Christian" Christmas Card
Bush's "Super Christian" Christmas Card

by Dr. Gerry Lower | Dec 16 2007



According to Eugene Robinson at the Washington Post, "It would be ridiculous, in this day and age, to have a president who completely rejects evolution." It follows, therefore, that having a president like George W. Bush is more than ridiculous in this day and age (1). Think about this, people, because it is true.

In Jefferson's America, one has the right to believe in any religion that one chooses, but one has the right to impose that religion upon no one. In other words, in America, it is most proper to leave all religion at home, where it belongs if at all, when venturing out into public. That is actually all the more tolerant that the "separation of church and state" properly gets in a democracy. In a world of bad laws, the separation of church and state ought be made into law, because it would constitute a good law.

When out in public, it is best to accept biological evolution because it is generally-applicable across the human board, the story beneath the origins of all people on earth, no matter what religion to which they might claim subscription.

So, this week we have been treated to George and Laura Bush's Christmas card for 2007, referred to by Barbara Walters as the "most religious" White House Christmas card in her memory (2). This is an accurate characterization.

The card was also referred to by Danny Shea at Huffington Post as the White House's "Super Christian" Christmas card (3). This is not an accurate characterization. The card is entirely Old Testament and, therefore, pre-Christian with nothing whatsoever to do with the Christ, human rights or Christmas.

George and Laura do not mention evolution, but rather they nourish Bible-based Creationism. The Book of Nehemiah which they quote is Old Testament, every word of which predates the Christ and every word of which is unrelated to any message brought to earth by the Christ. In other words, like the Roman Church, George W. Bush knows essentially nothing of Jefferson's nascent Christian source of human rights (4). Our president is remarkably ignorant of both Jesus and Jefferson.

more...

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/11596
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 05:25 PM
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1. Baba Wawa says "Most religious" WH card in her memory
I'm guessing she says it like that is a good thing. But then she has a regular panelist on her show who believes Jesus lived before the dinosaurs.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 05:27 PM
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3. Nope, she criticizes it, here:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 05:33 PM
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4. Sorry, I misjudged her
I'm going to have to watch that if only to see what the flat earther on that show thinks about religious xmas cards.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 05:26 PM
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2. What I find offensive is
that bush can send out a Christian Card. He is the most unChristian person the world has ever seen. But I don't think it makes any difference if a person sends a Christian Christmas Card or not. It is the preference of the person.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 05:38 PM
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5. I am not very sure it's a personal card. It's a WH-POTUS card - thus excluding
that portion of We the People who happens to celebrate other stuff.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 05:57 PM
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8. Since when do they give a crap about us?
This is a Christian Nation, don't you know? :sarcasm:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 05:44 PM
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6. Picture of card? Link to Nehemiah quote?
They talk about it but I still haven't a clue.

And I object to the insistence that human rights don't exist in the old testament.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 05:55 PM
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7. Again, if you bothered to read the OP, you'd find that info here:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:05 PM
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9. Yet the only link was to Smirking Chimp.
But thank you for finally providing the more useful link. (And it's so innocently charming to believe that people are carefully reading every word you post. Especially when you post so many.)

So Georgie's gone over to Jehovah? Tell the Saudis!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:06 PM
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10. This link was within the smirking chimp link, which you obviously
Edited on Sun Dec-16-07 06:08 PM by babylonsister
didn't read. :eyes:

And maybe you'd benefit by actually looking for something new instead of just criticizing everything you 'scan'.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:20 PM
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11. For *, the New Testament means: once forgiven, always forgiven--even for murderers& torturerers.
I don't exactly agree with some of the smirking chimp article (by Dr. Gerry Lower). He says:

Being "born-again" into Roman religion is bad enough but most Old Testament Roman Republicans think that their particular version of religion makes them somehow "special" if not infallible - as another aid to their lack of accountability

The article misses the fact that bush uses the New Testament to give him that "lack of accountability." (The "once saved always saved" nonsense.) The old Testament would certainly insist on accountability!

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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:41 PM
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12. i just wiped my ass with his 'krishin' card...
and sent it back to the white house!
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:59 PM
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13. I Like This Excerpt From The Referenced Article
I hope I will get away with pasting it here, because it stands alone so well in this Season:

Make no mistake, George and Laura's Christmas card has nothing whatsoever to do with nascent (before Rome) Christianity as Jefferson's source of human rights (4). Their card has everything to do, not with human rights, but with Old Testament Roman religion and the legalism that has guaranteed and maintained despotism in the western world for nearly two millennia.

Why is this so difficult to understand by Roman theists and secular atheists so dedicated to their misinterpretations? The middle human ground to comprehension comes from Jefferson's Deism and the concept that human rights are the path to Deity on Earth, while Old Testament Romanism is, after all,0 the path to apocalypse.

One cannot give up on nascent Christian human rights just because the Roman church misinterpreted the Christian message so thoroughly for 1700 years in the name of western despotism, now can one? One cannot give up on human rights because, after all people, this discussion is just not that difficult to comprehend.

Please, people, give human rights, Jesus and Jefferson (devoid of everything Roman) another chance in your lives. Nascent Christian human rights are the only way to get a little love back on this earth, our only hope for a touch of human deity. What have you got to lose, given our sorry current reality?

Please, people, be yourselves and not who the Roman theists and secular atheists expect you to be, because they are complementary opposites and they are both wrong in the eyes of balanced reason. Then, this year, have a real and meaningful Christmas.


That's MY Christmas card to fellow DUers.



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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 08:56 PM
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14. "be yourselves and not who the Roman theists and secular atheists expect you to be,"
Damn secular atheists trying to make people not be themselves!The bastartds! I bet they killed Kenny too!
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