Robert Novak: Kerry and Jane

[absyntheNsugar]

WASHINGTON -- A 34-year-old flier lists speakers for an anti-Vietnam War rally at Valley Forge State Park, Pennsylvania, September 7, 1970.

Included were two of that era's most notorious leftist agitators, the Rev. James Bevel and Mark Lane, plus actress Jane Fonda, a symbol of extreme opposition to the war. Leading off the list was a less familiar name: John Kerry.

So much for the contention by Kerry supporters that his connection with "Hanoi Jane" (so called for her later visit to the enemy capital in time of war) was accidental juxtaposition in a photograph. In fact, Navy Lt. Kerry returned from heroic wartime service to help lead the radical Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), whose diatribes against flag and country are shocking from the distance of three decades.

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Excuse me, Mr. "National Security is not as important as protecting my president" Novak, but how in the name of all that is good and decent was VVAW a "radical" group????

and your evidence to the contrary is PURELY circumstantial.

Kerry supporters should read this as to know what to expect

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/02/19/column.novak.opinion.kerry/index.html

[Faygo Kid]

1. Yep, we need more Vietnams, Bob. Keep it up, and run on that.

So opposition to the Vietnam War is now treason, and that war is the role model for perfection by the GOP. Keep running on that, Bob, and all you sycophants. Those of us old enough to have lived through it are ready. Oh yes, please run on the brilliance of that war. Please.

[trumad]

2. NoFacts is in the same league as Drudge...

forever tarnished as the hacks they are.... Even Moron America knows these guys are idiots.

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[PsN2Wind]

6. As much as it pains me

I have to inform you that Novak can't be classified with the chickenhawks. He served in the Army during the Korean war. Don't know if he was in combat but he did at least serve. That said, I still can't stand the slobbering prick.

[sadiesworld]

3. "accidental juxtaposition" my ass.

[alarcojon]

7. I e-mailed CNN and complained about that very phrase

I said that it was very deceptive, suggesting against all evidence that the photo was not a deliberate attempt to smear Kerry by association. Then I noted that these are the kinds of journalistic standards we've come to expect from Bob "Valerie Plame" Novak, and my only question is why CNN continues to associate itself with him.

No, I'm not expecting a response anytime soon.

[Faygo Kid]

5. Thanks for the post. E-mailed Novak (his address still lists Evans)

No response likely. Bet Bob goes nowhere near a computer. Here is what I sent:
You're a damned good curmudgeon, Bob, and we need that. But your column of Feb. 19 was over the top. Go ahead, and encourage the GOP to run on the platform that the Vietnam War was a good thing, and the kind of action we can look forward to in a second Bush term. The photo you cite (big deal, by the way) was taken two years before Jane Fonda went to Hanoi. And since when did opposition to That War become a negative? Have you seen "The Fog of War," Bob? Have you read "The Past Has Another Pattern," by George Ball (obscure, I admit, but brilliant and honest)? I assume you have heard of him. You know better. Wrong war, wrong place, wrong time, wrong reasons. And there's enough of us out here to counter any who say otherwise. I, too, aspire to be a good curmudgeon, Bob, and I will fight you on this one, tooth and nail. Best and cordial regards, anyway.

[Sheila Samples]

9. Brilliant response to Novak

But you are right. You won't be hearing from him anytime soon. He is frantic, as are the Repubs and most of the corporate media, at the thought of their bully puppet getting beat in November. The last person they want Bush to debate is Kerry, and the not-too-subtle move (especially by CNN) to support Edwards and discredit Kerry is underway.

Farging bastages...

[HereSince1628]

8. In 1970 VVAW was a radical group!

This is the one connection to ideology that gives me any hope that Kerry is not simply more of the same old same old...

Of course, in 2004 the war in Vietnam is seen as something that was a stupid path for the US to follow. It was not so in 1970. Some young people were clear and loudly outspoken, but there was a large part of the US population that was "in line" and "patriotic."

It's so easy to forget the struggle that was undertaken to stop what seemed both as a senseless war and a war with no clear measure for the end.

I don't agree with Kerry's current positions regarding the military, but at the time my heart was with him --my body was in Southeast Asia.

[emulatorloo]

10. Anybody who thinks Vietnam was a "good idea" isnt voting Dem anyway n/t