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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 08:03 PM
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Overhyping Georgia
The conflict between Russian and Georgia is certainly important -- but the majority of the rhetoric in the United States has been overheated.

Matthew Yglesias | August 13, 2008

The war between Russia and Georgia which appears -- mercifully -- to have ended is, of course, a searing experience for the small republic that provoked, and then badly lost, the war. The consequences for the populations of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, the splinter regions of Georgia whose independence under Russian "protection" (originally declared back in 1991 when Georgia seceded from the U.S.S.R.) now seems secure, may well prove lasting. And one can at least imagine the conflict was a huge psychological boost for Russia, which is eager to move beyond the decline of Soviet power. But for the rest of the world, despite a lot of overheated rhetoric to the contrary over the past week, the consequences will be minimal.

Of course not everyone sees it that way. On Monday night's show, CNN Headline News' resident hysteric, Glenn Beck, termed the war a "pivotal moment for the United States of America" claiming prescience for having "been warning people for a while now that Russia is trying to corner the market" on hydrocarbons. Max Boot warned that "the Russian attacks on Georgia, if left unchecked, could easily trigger more conflict in the future … today, Georgia; tomorrow, Ukraine; the day after, Estonia?" John McCain sought to build the sense of crisis, arguing that "world history is often made in remote, obscure countries."

The reality, however, is that world history in the relevant sense isn't made often at all. That's what makes it noteworthy. And it's especially unlikely to be made in remote, obscure countries unless -- as in Sarajevo, 1914 -- major countries use events in obscure ones as a pretext to escalate longstanding conflicts. The idea that the Caucuses clash is an epochal event depends, crucially, on the argument, made notably by Bill Kristol, Robert Kagan, John Barry, that the Ossetia crisis is equivalent to the Sudetenland crisis of 1938 and that any failure to punish Russia would repeat the mistakes of the Munich agreement when Chamberlain’s policy of appeasement failed to head off further German aggression but did weaken the West’s ability to resist such aggression.

The reality, however, is that Russia has no actual ability to move from Tblisi to Kiev. Georgia is tiny, poor, and geographically located so as to make it difficult for the West to provide it with any practical support. Ukraine has ten times Georgia's population, twenty times its economic output, and extensive land borders with countries firmly in the western orbit. The practical impossibility of conquering Ukraine, not American threats, is what will keep the Russians out of Kiev. Meanwhile, it turns out that, contrary to the fears of the hysterics, Russia isn't even going to Tblisi today, much less Ukraine tomorrow or Estonia the day after that. Vladimir Putin, unlike the leader of the United States, is apparently shrewd enough to recognize that military occupations of foreign territory have high costs and scarce benefits.

But while Russia's punishment of Georgia may not have major consequences for America or for world security, a hysterical American response just might. Most obviously, if we were to take things like John McCain's August 12 proclamation that "we are all Georgians" seriously, we would be in the midst of a shooting war with Russia and literally risking the end of human civilization in a nuclear exchange.

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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 08:13 PM
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1. According to General Clark:
Edited on Wed Aug-13-08 08:41 PM by elleng
"I think it's a very dangerous situation. I think Russia has clearly taken advantage and is pursuing strategic objectives. I don't think we've seen the end of this yet. . .

What's being done right now is a, it's a game. The Russians played this game before. We saw it, I saw it personally. They played it against NATO in Kosova. They say at the political level, 'We'll stop,' but at the military level they don't stop. And without ground truth it's difficult to go back and confront the political leadership and say, 'You guys are lying to us! You tell them to stop and we mean it or else.' And so, the first step is to get some neutral observers in there."


http://securingamerica.com/node/3060

'The United States on Wednesday called on NATO to hold an extraordinary meeting of foreign ministers in Brussels next week to discuss the crisis in Georgia, a NATO spokeswoman said.

"Washington this morning asked the organisation to hold a NATO foreign ministers' meeting, and consultations are underway to organise one at the beginning of next week," spokeswoman Carmen Romero told AFP.

The meeting is planned to take place in the Belgian capital next Tuesday.'

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Washington_calls_for_NATO_meeting_o_08132008.html



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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 10:22 PM
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2. thanks for posting that. nt
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