Exporting America: false choices -- By Lou Dobbs, Lou Dobbs Tonight

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Exporting America: false choices
http://money.cnn.com/2004/03/09/commentary/dobbs/dobbs/index.htm
In none of the attacks on my position on outsourcing has a news organization addressed the facts.
March 10, 2004: 11:12 AM EST
By Lou Dobbs, Lou Dobbs Tonight

NEW YORK (CNN) - You may have noticed recently that I'm being attacked for my views on the exporting of American jobs and my calls for a balanced U.S. trade policy.

Gerard Baker of the Financial Times called me the "high priest of demotic sensationalism."

An editorial in the Economist magazine accused me of embarking "on a rabidly anti-trade editorial agenda" and "greeting every announcement of lost jobs as akin to a terrorist assault."

---snip---

I will tell you it does make a fellow think when attacked so energetically and so personally. But in none of the attacks on my position on outsourcing has a single columnist or news organization seen fit to deal with the facts.

Number one: We're not creating jobs in the private sector, and that's never happened before in our history. Our economists and politicians need to be coming up with answers, not dogma.

Number two: We haven't had a trade surplus in this country in more than two decades, and our trade deficit continues to soar.

Number three: We've lost three million jobs in this country over the last three years, and millions more American jobs are at risk of being outsourced to cheap overseas labor markets.

---snip---

Frankly, I would love to be proved wrong in my views, and I would gladly change my position, if only my critics would answer a few questions factually, empirically and straightforwardly.

One: How many more jobs must we lose before they become concerned about our middle class and our strength as a consumer market? Two: When will the U.S. have to quit borrowing foreign capital to buy foreign goods that support European and Asian economies while driving us deeper into debt? Three: What jobs will our currently 15 million unemployed workers fill, where and when?

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meanwhile - a must have link for DUers
Here is a list of companies we've confirmed are "Exporting America." These are U.S. companies either sending American jobs overseas, or choosing to employ cheap overseas labor, instead of American workers.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/popups/exporting.america/frameset.exclude.html

3Com
3M

A
Aalfs Manufacturing
Accenture
Adaptec
ADC
Adobe Systems
Advanced Energy Industries
Aetna
Affiliated Computer Services
AFS Technologies
A.G. Edwards
Agere Systems
Agilent Technologies
AIG
Alamo Rent A Car
Albertson's
Alcoa Fujikura
Allen Systems Group
Alliance Semiconductor
Allstate
Alpha Thought Global
Amazon.com
AMD
American Express
American Household
American Management Systems
American Standard
AMETEK
Amphenol Corporation
Analog Devices
ANDA Networks
Andrew Corporation
Anheuser-Busch
AOL
A.O. Smith
Apple
Applied Materials
Art Leather Manufacturing
ArvinMeritor
A.T. Cross Company
AT&T
AT&T Wireless
A.T. Kearney
Automatic Data Processing
Avanade
Avanex
Avaya
Avery Dennison

B
Bank of America
Bank of New York
Bank One
Bassett Furniture
Bassler Electric Company
BearingPoint
Bear Stearns
Bechtel
Becton Dickinson
BellSouth
Bentley Systems
Berdon LLP
Best Buy
BISSELL
Black & Decker
Bose Corporation
BMC Software
Boeing
Braden Manufacturing
Bristol-Myers Squibb
Brocade
Bumble Bee
Burle Industries
Burlington House Home Fashions

C
Cadence Design Systems
Candle Corporation
Capital One
Carrier
Carter's
Caterpillar
Celestica
Cendant
Cerner Corporation
Charles Schwab
ChevronTexaco
CIBER
Ciena
Cigna
Circuit City
Cisco Systems
Citigroup
Clorox
CNA
Coca-Cola
Cognizant Technology Solutions
Collins & Aikman
Columbia House
Comcast Holdings
Computer Associates
Computer Sciences Corporation
CompuServe
Continental Airlines
Convergys
Cooper Crouse-Hinds
Cooper Tire & Rubber
Cooper Tools
Corning
Countrywide Financial
COVAD Communications
Cross Creek Apparel
Crown Holdings
CSX
Cummins
Cypress Semiconductor

D
Dana Corporation
Daniel Woodhead
Daws Manufacturing
Dayton Superior
Delco Remy
Dell Computer
DeLong Sportswear
Delphi
Delta Air Lines
Delta Apparel
Direct TV
Discover
Document Sciences Corporation
Donaldson Company
Dow Chemical
Dresser
Dun & Bradstreet
DuPont

E
Earthlink
Eastman Kodak
Eaton Corporation
Electroglas
Electronic Data Systems
Electronics for Imaging
Eli Lilly
Elmer's Products
E-Loan
EMC
Emerson Electric
En Pointe Technologies
Equifax
Ernst & Young
Ethan Allen
Evolving Systems
Expedia
Extrasport
ExxonMobil

F
Fair Isaac
FCI USA
Fedders Corporation
Federal Mogul
Federated Department Stores
Fellowes
Fender Musical Instruments
Fidelity Investments
Financial Techologies International
First American Title Insurance
First Data
First Index
Flowserve
Fluor
FMC Corporation
Ford Motor
Foster Wheeler
Franklin Mint
Franklin Templeton
Freeborders
Frito Lay
Fruit of the Loom

G
Gateway
GE Capital
General Electric
General Motors
Gerber Childrenswear
GlobespanVirata
Goldman Sachs
Goodrich
Goodyear Tire & Rubber
Google
Greenpoint Mortgage
Guardian Life Insurance
Guilford Mills

H
Halliburton
Haggar
Hamilton Beach/Procter-Silex
The Hartford Financial Services Group
Hasbro Manufacturing Services
HealthAxis
Hedstrom
Helen of Troy
Hershey
Hewitt Associates
Hewlett-Packard
The Holmes Group
Home Depot
Honeywell
HSN
Hubbell Inc.
Humana
Hunter Sadler
HyperTech Solutions

I
IBM
iGate Corporation
Illinois Tool Works
IMI Cornelius
IndyMac Bancorp
Infogain
Ingersoll-Rand
Innodata Isogen
Innova Solutions
Intel
InterMetro Industries
International Paper
Intuit
Invacare
ITT Educational Services
ITT Industries

J
Jabil Circuit
Jacobs Engineering
Jacuzzi
JDS Uniphase
Jockey International
John Deere
Johnson Controls
Johnson & Johnson
JPMorgan Chase
J.R. Simplot
Juniper Networks

K
KANA Software
Kaiser Permanente
Keane
Kellogg
Kellwood
KEMET
KEMET Electronics
KeyCorp
Kimberly-Clark
KLA-Tencor
Kraft Foods
Kulicke and Soffa Industries
Kwikset

L
Lands' End
Lawson Software
Lear Corporation
Lehman Brothers
Levi Strauss
Lexmark International
Lifescan
Lillian Vernon
Linksys
Lionbridge Technologies
Lionel
LiveBridge
Lockheed Martin
Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Lowe's
Lucent

M
The Manitowoc Company
Marathon Oil
Maritz
Marshall Fields
Mattel
Master Lock
Maytag
McDATA Corporation
McKinsey & Company
MeadWestvaco
Medtronic
Mellon Bank
Merrill Corporation
Merrill Lynch
Metasolv
MetLife
Microsoft
Midcom Inc.
Moen
Monsanto
Morgan Stanley
Motor Coach Industries International
Motorola

N
Nabco
Nabisco
NACCO Industries
National City Corporation
National Life
National Semiconductor
NCR Corporation
neoIT
NETGEAR
Network Associates
Newell Rubbermaid
New York Life Insurance
Northrop Grumman
Northwest Airlines
Nu-kote International

O
Office Depot
Ohio Art
ON Semiconductor
Orbitz
Oracle
OshKosh B'Gosh
Otis Elevator
Outsource Partners International
Owens Corning
Oxford Automotive
Oxford Industries

P
Pacific Precision Metals
palmOne
Paramount Apparel
Parker-Hannifin
Parsons E&C
Pearson Digital Learning
PeopleSoft
PepsiCo
Pericom Semiconductor
PerkinElmer
Perot Systems
Pfizer
Pitney Bowes
Planar Systems
Plexus
Portal Software
Power One
Pratt & Whitney
Primus Telecom
Procter & Gamble
ProQuest
Providian Financial
Prudential Insurance

Q
Quark
Qwest Communications

R
Rainbow Technologies
Radio Shack
Rawlings Sporting Goods
Raytheon Aircraft
RCG Information Technology
Regence Group
Rockwell Automations
Rogers
Rohm & Haas
RR Donnelley & Sons
Russell Corporation

S
Sabre
Safeway
SAIC
Sallie Mae
Samsonite
Sanmina-SCI
Sapient
Sara Lee
Saturn Electronics & Engineering
SBC Communications
Schumacher Electric
Scientific Atlanta
SEI Investments
Seton Company
Siebel Systems
Sikorsky
Silicon Graphics
SITEL
Skyworks Solutions
SMC Networks
Sola Optical USA
Solectron
Sovereign Bancorp
Sprint
Sprint PCS
Square D
Stanley Furniture
Stanley Works
Starkist Seafood
State Farm Insurance
State Street
StorageTek
StrategicPoint Investment Advisors
Sun Microsystems
Sunrise Medical
SunTrust Banks
Supra Telecom
SurePrep
The Sutherland Group
Sykes Enterprises
Symbol Technologies
Synygy

T
Target
Tecumseh
Telcordia
Teleflex
TeleTech
Telex Communications
Tellabs
Tenneco Automotive
Teradyne
Texas Instruments
Textron
Thomas & Betts
Thrivent Financial for Lutherans
Time Warner
The Timken Company
The Toro Company
Tower Automotive
Toys "R" Us
Trans Union
Travelocity
Trinity Industries
Triquint Semiconductor
TriVision Partners
Tropical Sportswear
TRW Automotive
Tumbleweed Communications
Tyco Electronics
Tyco International

U
Union Pacific Railroad
Unisys
United Airlines
UnitedHealth Group Inc.
United Online
United Technologies
USAA

V
Valence Technology
VA Software
Veritas
Verizon
VF Corporation
Viasystems
Vishay
Visteon
VITAL Sourcing

W
Wachovia Bank
Warnaco
Washington Group International
Washington Mutual
WellChoice
Werner Co.
West Corporation
Weyerhaeuser
Whirlpool
White Rodgers
Williamson-Dickie Manufacturing Company
Wolverine World Wide
WorldCom
World Kitchen
Wyeth

X
Xerox
Xpitax

Y
Yahoo!
York International

Z
Zenith

[reprehensor]

1. Thanks for posting...

Mucho appreciato.

[ixion]

2. my, my, my... look at all the tech companies... and this list does not

include start-ups and smaller companies, which are also outsourcing.

Dobbs is right, in this case. Our society as we know it will cease to be if corporations continue to outsource, IMHO.

[jjanpundt]

3. Umm, I think I'm confused

Many of the companies listed have offices/plants all over the world, Ford Motor has an enormous manufacturing plant in England and Bear Stearns is a huge securities firm that has had offices all over the world for decades, ditto American Express. While I'm concerned about these companies moving more of their operations overseas and laying off more American workers, I am really incensed about the companies that have moved almost all of their operations offshore. After a recent go around with a Dell Computer tech - based in India and barely fluent in English - I will never buy Dell again. Dell supposedly was going to move everything back to the U.S., but I don't think they have. Maybe the list could be refined/pruned so it would be easier to determine which companies have recently (since 2000 maybe)laid off/outsourced their workforce?

[newyawker99]

5. Hi jjanpundt!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[teryang]

4. I tried to communicate with my banks

...central service line for loans. I found myself talking to someone from India, he had no idea what I was talking about. I could barely understand what he was saying. I tried to explain that I was already a customer for over fifteen years and had a track record and several ongoing transactions with the bank. This was a quite small deal that was about to be consumated and differed only on fine points. He was dealing with me like "I'm giving the orders here." I thought I was dealing with a south Asian slum lord. He would have said, "take it or leave it" if he only knew how. I told him I didn't have to do the transaction the way he proposed. No counterproposal, no deal. The bank sure saved money on that deal.