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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:09 PM
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India’s 9/11? Not Exactly
SINCE the terrorist assaults began in Mumbai last week, the metaphor of the World Trade Center attacks has been repeatedly invoked. From New Delhi to New York, pundits and TV commentators have insisted that “this is India’s 9/11” and should be treated as such. Nearly every newspaper in India has put “9/11” into its post-massacre headlines. The secretary general of the Bharatiya Janata Party, the leading Hindu nationalist political faction, has not only likened the Mumbai attack to those on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, but has insisted that “our response must be close to what the American response was.”

There can be no doubt that there are certain clear analogies between the two attacks: in both cases the terrorists were clearly at great pains to single out urban landmarks, especially those that serve as symbolic points of reference in this increasingly interconnected world. There are similarities, too, in the unexpectedness of the attacks, the meticulousness of their planning, their shock value and the utter unpreparedness of the security services. But this is where the similarities end. Not only were the casualties far greater on Sept. 11, 2001, but the shock of the attack was also greatly magnified by having no real precedent in America’s history.

India’s experience of terrorist attacks, on the other hand, far predates 2001. Although this year has been one of the worst in recent history, 1984 was arguably worse still. That year an insurgency in the Punjab culminated in the assassination of Prime Minister Indira Gandhi by her Sikh bodyguards. This in turn led to riots that took the lives of some 2,000 Sikhs.

I was living in Delhi then and I recall vividly the sense of besetting crisis, of extreme fragility, of being pushed to the edge of an abyss: it was the only time I can recall when the very project of the Indian republic seemed to be seriously endangered. Yet for all its horror, the portents of 1984 were by no means fulfilled: in the following years, there was a slow turnaround; the Punjab insurgency gradually quieted down; and although the victims of the massacres may never receive justice in full measure, there has been some judicial retribution.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/opinion/03ghosh.html?th&emc=th
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:23 PM
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1. Does this count as terrorism?
On Dec. 3, 1984, more than 4,000 people died after a cloud of gas escaped from a pesticide plant operated by a Union Carbide subsidiary in Bhopal, India.
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drewed206 Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:40 AM
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6. ARE YOU SERIOUS!?!?!?
Just because less than 4000 people died in this CLEAR attack on the people of India and the poeple of the world YOU are going to say its not terroism? If ONE person dies (or even none) it is obviously terrorism since they had a planned/structured attack on these innocent people. I do have to say it was not nearly the damage or loss of life as the 9/11 attacks but it is an attack on our fellow humans that were minding their own business. This should be taken as seriously as ANY terror attack EVER because I personally care when another person dies... you never know when it will be you or your loved ones. I'm not trying to be paranoid, but at least try to see where im coming from. All we can do is be happy the Indian army got in there before they did any more damage (some bombs were found... that would make it pretty bad) they have a HIGHLY trained military thats trying to do the right thing and i think we should all support them in their times of harship.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:50 AM
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7. You didn't read the text in the post. I know the attack in Mumbai was terrorism. Read the text
The day this was posted was the anniversary of the Bhopal incident.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 02:54 PM
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2. we're the only people who have the right to claim 9/11
what a load of horseshit.

We were so fucking asleep we didn't notice terrorism has always been around. 9/11 - it was the surprise that was so shocking. We're number one in stupidity and misplaced sentimentality, and above all number one in hubris.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:24 PM
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5. thats not what the article says. its saying that india should not respond the same way america did
at that if we keep referring to it as our 9/11, we will and that would be disastrous
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 04:30 PM
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3. India's 9/11
has been going on for at least the last 20 years.

Since USSR withdrew from Afghanistan. All the Jihadis with US weapons turned their eyes towards India.

Thousands dead (I dont have the exact number, but if you add all terrorism related deaths, they will run close to a hundred thousand).

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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:21 PM
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4. amitav ghosh is right. india should not look to the americans as a way
to deal w. a terrorist attack
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