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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 07:39 AM
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Iraq: The beginning of the end. Can we ever repay Iraqis what we owe them?

Iraq: The beginning of the end

As the war enters its final phase, Bush claims we won. But how can we ever repay Iraqis what we owe them?

By Gary Kamiya


Dec. 9, 2008 | On Thursday, after months of parliamentary wrangling, Iraq's three-man presidential council finally approved the U.S.-Iraq security pact, known as the Status of Forces Agreement. The pact requires all U.S. troops to leave Iraq by the end of 2011, with all combat forces withdrawing from Iraq cities in six months. The pact is a milestone: It spells the beginning of the end of Bush's great Iraq adventure. But not surprisingly, no one agrees on just what it means.

The Bush administration and war supporters claim that the agreement is a great victory. Neoconservative pundit Charles Krauthammer declared in the Washington Post that the agreement represents "the single most important geopolitical advance in the region since Henry Kissinger turned Egypt from a Soviet client into an American ally." War opponents have cautiously welcomed its call for an end to the U.S. military presence in Iraq but remain skeptical about whether it really represents progress.

But most Americans have barely noticed the security pact. Like the solipsist's tree falling on the moon, wars only exist when you notice them, and the American people tuned out the Iraq war long ago. This is a troubling fact, because war is a vast and terrible thing, the most momentous action a state can undertake. Whether you're a war supporter or a war opponent, you should be paying attention. The end of the war that bitterly divided America, cost thousands of American lives and an estimated 3 trillion dollars and wrecked the Bush presidency is in sight, and no one seems to have noticed.

So as we approach the beginning of the end of this war, it's worth drawing up a report card. Not a final one -- it may not be possible to issue a final historical grade on Iraq for decades, or even longer. But it is possible to make some judgments. The Iraq story isn't over yet, and whether we like it or not, we are deeply implicated in its outcome. When we invaded and shattered the country, we assumed a large measure of responsibility for its fate.

First, all sides, pro-war or anti-war, should agree that anything that helps Iraq and the Iraqi people is a good thing. The Iraqis should not be pawns in anyone's political game. George W. Bush's war may have been a catastrophic mistake, illegal, immoral and destructive in every way. But if something takes place on Bush's watch that helps the Iraqis, we should support it.

From that perspective, the security agreement does indeed provide some grounds for optimism that the next chapter in Iraq's story may not be as disastrous as the one written by Bush. That outcome is far from guaranteed. Iraq could still fall back into sectarian and ethnic chaos, and a thousand other disastrous or unpleasant or merely mixed outcomes could await it. The pact is unpopular with many Iraqis for different reasons, and it was only approved after massive U.S. arm-twisting and threats -- even though Bush had to make major, humiliating concessions in it. Nor is it a completely done deal: The Iraqi people will have their chance to approve or reject the agreement next June.

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http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2008/12/09/iraq/
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:43 AM
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1. Under Obama
Who gets the oil?

Wasn't this all about the oil?

Can the USA at least come out of this fiasco with the oil?

And if we got the oil, wouldn't it cost the USA about $300 a barrel to get this friggin' oil in the first place?

Wouldn't it have been better if we just bought the damn stuff from Iraq in the first place?

-90% jimmy
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:59 PM
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2. Not unless we can figure out a way to bring the dead back to life...
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:44 PM
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3. Nah! Screw Iraq, they're beat into submission now--minus about 1,000,000 of them.
Let's move our forces into the next phase of the corporate-imperialist venture.

Dominate--Beat Soundly--Torture--Murder--Steal--Destroy--Own all the governments--Control all the resources--

NEEXT!
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:25 PM
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4. a small way to help ....
www.thelistproject.org
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 01:52 AM
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5. By the way, it's not a war. It's an illegal invasion and occupation and just plain murder. n/t
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 02:42 AM
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6. "can we ever repay Iraqis what we owe them?" Nope.
We could start to end our imperial era. Chalmers Johnson talks about it.

Pinto posted the beautiful UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights; a document from the same time that the CIA was beginning their reign of world terror.

We're such hypocrites.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 04:03 PM
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7. we can't repay them, but we can make those who profited from the war try
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