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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 07:29 AM
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No Free HIV Test For Sluts

Did Republican state Sen. Dave Schultheis of Colorado Springs even consider for one second that pregnant women who have HIV are not necessarily sexually promiscuous and even if they are, it's none of his goddammed business? No, he did not. He concluded that pregnant women with HIV were indeed sexually promiscuous and voted against a bill that would "reward" such sluts with a free HIV test.


Thank you, Madam President. You know, this was a difficult bill for me. I voted yes in committee on it because of discussions surrounding the fact that — well, let me just basically say this, it basically modifies the communicable disease laws and it requires the health care providers to test pregnant women for HIV unless they opt out. And that’s basically, that’s the main part of this bill. I voted yes on it. I was a little bit troubled with my vote and was just wondering what was bothering me. I woke up the next morning — Thursday morning — at 5 a.m. and I wrestled with this bill for another hour from 5 to 6 and finally came to the conclusion I’m going to be a no vote on this. I’m trying to think through what the role of government is here. And I am not convinced that part of the role of government should be to protect individuals from the negative consequences of their actions.

Sexual promiscuity, we know, causes a lot of problems in our state, one of which, obviously, is the contraction of HIV. And we have other programs that deal with the negative consequences — we put up part of our high schools where we allow students maybe 13 years old who put their child in a small daycare center there.

We do things continually to remove the negative consequences that take place from poor behavior and unacceptable behavior, quite frankly, and I don’t think that’s the role of this body.

As a result of that I finally came to the conclusion I would have to be a no vote on this because this stems from sexual promiscuity for the most part, and I just can’t vote on this bill and I wanted to explain to this body why I was going to be a no vote on this.
Wait. It gets even worse. He went on to tell the press that HIV babies are a punishment for promiscuous sex:

“What I’m hoping is that, yes, that person may have AIDS, have it seriously as a baby and when they grow up, but the mother will begin to feel guilt as a result of that,” he said. “The family will see the negative consequences of that promiscuity and it may make a number of people over the coming years begin to realize that there are negative consequences and maybe they should adjust their behavior.”
This is the type of ass backwards thinking that keeps our country in the 18th century. He is probably one of those legislators that opposes contraception because he feels a woman should always be punished with a pregnancy for her promiscuity. It all boils down to misogyny and there should be no room for it in any of our legislatures. It's one thing to have a prehistoric opinion about an issue and it's another thing to have the power to vote on bill when you are so sadly misinformed and jaded that it hurts the brains of most sensible people to even attempt to understand it.

In good news, the bill passed 32-1. Democrats however are wondering why the sane Republicans didn't admonish Schultheis for his "opinion."

http://blondesense.blogspot.com/2009/02/no-free-hiv-test-for-sluts.html
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 07:32 AM
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1. Wow. Just...wow.
:puke:
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 07:45 AM
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2. In Rethug world, medical tests are "rewards"?? Yeah Rethugs are evil, and also deeply insane. nt
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 07:46 AM by Mist
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 07:51 AM
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3. My mother was involved in some of these support groups

(she's a medical professional)

apparently, one of the biggest stigmas are for "normal" heterosexual married women who get HIV. Maybe they got it from their husband, a past lover, or a blood transfusion, but they get ostracized for something they didn't ask for and didn't engage in any risky behavior to acquire. And it's a big problem for them, psychologically, not to mention socially. You do drugs, sure. You're homosexual or engage in anal sex, sure. You have multiple partners, sure. But you're nice and married and traditional and you get it, no one believes you. The stigma is overwhelming for some of them.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 07:52 AM
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4. Gee, I hope he catches something nasty from some slut, then!
And then has to PAY to be tested for it when his little weiner turns green and orange and starts weeping like a soap opera star!

What a NUT! And a STUPID nut, too--he just doesn't THINK.

I guess he never thought that a woman could be monogamous as former nun Maria Von Trapp, but have a husband who's been around the track more than John Holmes!

What an idiot!
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:00 AM
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5. So he's prepared to punish the BABIES for their mother's supposed promiscuity?
Just fucking wow, that makes me feel so ill, and I'm 5000 miles away from him, (which is perhaps lucky for him...)

Just to say, if the Republicans don't repudiate this vile man, they forfeit any right to EVER describe themselves as 'pro-life'. This man really IS a baby-killer in his policies!!!!!!!
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:06 AM
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6. TIME WARP ALERT
The Spanish Inquisition is missing one of it's torturers
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:53 PM
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7. Heard this on KO last night, and it was such an extra crispy bucket of heartless AND stupid
that I felt dumber just for having listened to Keith read it.

All of the very good points others have already mentioned aside...this guy thinks people can "have AIDS seriously as a baby and when they grow up"?

You IDIOT...First of all, there's no such thing as having AIDS UN-seriously. Second, if you have AIDS as a baby, there's a damn good likelihood of your NOT GROWING UP, PERIOD. Despite what some people seem to think, it's not some easily controlled chronic illness...yet. People are still DYING from it, you dimtwit. And if you are born HIV positive and develop full-blown AIDS as a baby, your likelihood of "growing up with it" and being around long enough to serve as an ever-present living and guilt-inducing reproachment to your mother for her "sexual promiscuity" would seem to be DAMN BLOODY SMALL! :grr:

I could go on and on about how much the stupid in this one hurts, but I would like to get some sleep.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:13 AM
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8. Another of the 9,999 to ostracize Republicans
For every person like this who opens up their mouth- there are a million more who harbor the very same thoughts.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 02:43 AM
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9. Dumbass
A extremely creepy dumbass. I went to his website and read a couple editorials and blogs. He's an extremely creepy racist, sexist homophobic/hater dumbass.

So on a hunch, I googled "David Shultheis and evolution"

Yup.

An extremely creepy professional hater of everything not white, straight and male who has a faith-based dinosaur riding fantasy.

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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 05:37 AM
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10. I'm living in some alternate reality
These people couldn't possibly be real and there are so many of them. The insanity is frightening.
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