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BlueJessamine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:17 PM
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Valerie Plame: Obama is on Bush’s side
by J Riley

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/the-platform/open-thread/2009/05/valerie-plame-obama-is-on-bushs-side/

Maureen Dowd’s column that will appear in the Thursday Post-Dispatch is a make-believe conversation between Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld. She ends it with Cheney and Rumsfeld joking about getting President Barack Obama to pardon I. Lewis “Scooter’ Libby, who remains the onyl person convicted of anything in the Valerie Plame affair.

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CREW learned today that the Obama administration is opposing our request that the Supreme Court reconsider the dismissal of the lawsuit, Wilson v. Libby, et al. In that case, the district court had dismissed the claims of Joe and Valerie Wilson against former Vice President Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Scooter Libby and Richard Armitage for their gross violations of the Wilsons’ constitutional rights.


So, President Barack Obama is on the side of the patriotic folks who outed a CIA agent working to keep weapons of mass destruction out of the hands of an intemperate leader of a Middle East nation hostile to the United States.

Well, not likely. But the Obama dministration apparently understood the “exemption” of the offices of the president and vice president from a federal law on privacy. And apparently it also understood that even wityh jurisdiction, Plame would have to prove that she was harmed directly by the actions of those named in the suit.

Go figure. Cheney’s scheme worked. At least it worked long enough for him to get the war he wanted and how he wanted it. If he had to ruin the career of a CIA agent in the process, well, that’s just collateral damage.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:25 PM
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1. Good heavens! She had to quit her job and her life, and those she worked with...
is/was in jeopardy.

All they care about is their own skin, and it's time they were brought before the court.

I can't believe this...make-believe, or not.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:15 PM
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6. And not just her, all of Brewster-Jennings got compromised by those assholes.
Plus anybody they'd ever worked with. :grr:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:31 PM
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2. Considering the lies her husband told about Pres. Obama during the primaries, I'm not surprised.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:40 PM
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3. Would you care to expand on that and give some quotes? nt
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 08:24 AM
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19. Search HuffPo for Joe Wilson's op-eds on Barack Obama last year. nt
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:17 PM
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8. Give us some links please. nm
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 08:25 AM
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20. Joe Wilson did everything but mention the "whitey tape" last year in his HuffPo op-eds. Do a search.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:20 PM
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9. Are you really implying Barack Obama would abandon the rule of law for a political vendetta?
Really? :crazy:
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:56 PM
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14. Well, maybe not a personal vendetta, but he sure seems to have abandoned it for something.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 10:17 PM
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15. Something...
I've mentioned this before but I still keep thinking back to how terrified he looked when he made his acceptance speech. I noted it at the time, mainly saying WTF?
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:12 AM
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17. what sticks in my mind is the photo of the living presidents
The one with Carter way off to the side, like he doesn't want to touch or be near *any* of them.

And then Clinton at "normal personal/photograph space" distance to an uncomfortable cluster of:

Poppy and Dimson, with Obama tightly sandwiched between and slightly in front of, them.

Obama with a big grin. Poppy and Dimson smirking, looking for all the world like criminals with guns pressed to his back.

Seriously. Everyone else seemed focussed on Carter almost out of the picture.

I just saw Obama with Poppy and Dimson crowded into Obama's "personal space." Waaaay too close for comfort.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:34 AM
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26. Somehow I missed that.
Your description of it gives me chills. :scared:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:15 AM
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28. Then you'll really love these heartwarming pics of true friendship...
Touching photo portfolio of Bubba and his best buddy Poppy Bush: http://vermontdailybriefing.com/?p=817


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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:09 AM
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27. Speaking of "Waaaay too close for comfort" I guess you missed all the photos...
Edited on Thu May-21-09 11:11 AM by ClarkUSA
of Poppy and Bubba grinning in a golf cart? More examples of Bill Clinton being "too close for comfort" to Bush I and Bush II:

Link (Poppy thinks of Bill like another son): http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4093383
Link (Bill Clinton and Dumbya agree to paid $tage "debate"): http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5688689





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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 08:28 AM
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22. You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. See Reply # 21.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 08:27 AM
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21. "President Obama Announces Tribunal Changes That Bring Them In Line With The Rule Of Law"
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:38 PM
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:54 PM
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11. I note this bastion of truth
never bothered to back up his drive by slander with any form of fact. I also note that he is assuming that Obama would set aside right and wrong to engage in a political vendetta, ala Bush.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 08:31 AM
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23. See Reply #21 and watch his speech today on anti-terrorism tactics and closing Gitmo.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:01 AM
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:43 PM
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4. What lies were those? And the alleged lies are irrelevant in any case
Plame was measurably and significantly harmed and possibly untold numbers of others, who were working in a dangerous, secret mission. The country was also injured by the shutting down of this operation. I always thought Plame may have been too close to Cheney and his illegal dealings with arms dealers. It would be one thing if Obama had made his current positions clear when he was running against Hillary Clinton, but he did not. He consistently painted himself left of Hillary, whereas in reality she is left of Bill and Barack.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:06 PM
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12. No, I regret both Barack and Hillary are just like Bill before them: Corporate Enablers to the
detriment of anyone who is NOT part of the investor class.

Might as well settle in folks, It's Corporate "Gold Plated" Citizenships and Perpetual War-mongering for the duration.

UNLESS ... we organize - UNIONS. :evilgrin:
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:22 PM
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13. I don't remember exactly what he said, but Joe Wilson was VERY outspoken AGAINST
Candidate Obama. He had some very harsh words. I was shocked when it happened.

Wilson and Plame were very big Hillary Clinton supporters.

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 08:37 AM
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25. You have a very accurate memory. I recall the same things and felt the same way.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 08:36 AM
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24. Do a search on the HuffPo hitpieces Joe Wilson wrote last year.
Sorry, but the woman who voted for IWR and wanted to "Obliterate Iran" is not to the left of the only presidential candidate
who was against the Iraq war before the IWR vote was even taken.


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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:46 PM
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29. You think it's OK because Wilson didnt support Obama?
This is a legal issue, not a personal one.
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billac Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:43 PM
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5. Strange bedfellows

Valerie may have received some under-the-table bailout money.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:17 PM
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7. Explanation please. nt
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:51 AM
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18. It's not Bush's side - it's a decision made by the POTUS.

It's his decision to make - I'm sure President Obama made his decision based on his evaluation of the situation.
(that's what I voted for - a president who evaluates a situation and make his decision based on what he thinks
is best for the country, and not what every T,D and H wants) !

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