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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 05:12 PM
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Here We Go Again – Democrats Turning off Their Voting Base

For OpEdNews: Kevin Zeese - Writer

When it comes to war, the Obama administration fails to learn the lessons of 2006 and 2008 as well as the health care debate

Monday, October 5, 2009 may have been the beginning of the end of a Democratic majority in the House and Senate. Peace advocates demonstrated at the White House resulting in 61 arrests. The peace movement has grown tired of Obama's failure to end the Iraq war, his escalation of the Afghanistan war, his expansion of the war into Pakistan and his growing military budget. They have turned their criticism onto him and the Democratic Congress but the Democrats are not listening.

Does President Obama remember how the Democrats regained the majority in the House and Senate? Does he remember how he bested Hillary Clinton in the primaries? Here's a reminder.


Republicans dominated politics for the first eight years of the 21st Century. When President Bush attacked Iraq and pulled the U.S. into a war quagmire resulting in mass deaths of civilians and soldiers as well as bleeding of the U.S. treasury, the peace movement reacted. They highlighted the failures of the war, the lies that got America in to Iraq and the death, destruction and economic catastrophe the war was bringing. Peace activists demonstrated in Congress, sat-in the offices of elected officials and protested whenever Bush administration officials testified in Congress.

The public began to hear the full story – the weapons of mass destruction were a lie, there was no link between Saddam and Osama, the casualties of war were increasing, the cost of war was escalating, the largest mercenary force in history was violating laws. Opinion rapidly turned against the war. The result, in 2006, the voters threw out the Republicans and gave the Democrats solid control of both Houses of Congress.

In 2008, the front runner, then-Senator Hillary Clinton, was running a campaign for the presidency that seemed unstoppable. The media and politicians treated her election as an inevitable fait accompli. But, Clinton had voted for the Iraq invasion and this did not sit well with the American public, especially with anti-war Democrats – the base of the Democratic Party. The media anointed then-Senator Barack Obama as the “peace” candidate because of a speech he gave opposing the war before being elected to the U.S. senate. Aware of the mood of the voters he began his speeches with the promise: “I will end the war in Iraq.” Anti-war Democrats were enough to carry him through the primary and into the presidency.

In both cases, voters opposed to war were critical to determining the outcome.

But now, the Obama administration is ignoring those voters. The day after the protests at the White House it was reported in Talking Points Memo that the administration said: “White House officials say Obama is not focusing on antiwar protesters -- neither the more than 60 who were arrested yesterday at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue nor the handful outside the White House gates today -- or on a MoveOn email petition circulating asking him for a clear military exit strategy.”

The peace movement is noting that the president is ignoring their calls to end the war. Even worse for the president, this time we are starting as the majority. Polls show that more than 70% of Democrats oppose the Afghanistan war and sending more troops to the region as do a majority of Americans.

Obama is forgetting how he and the Democrats came to power. Who does Obama think provides much of the person-power for their elections? Or, the small grass roots donations? What do Obama and the Democrats think will happen if the peace movement stays home in 2010?

And, to make matters worse, he is repeating the mistake made in the health care debate. The president has been unable to excite grass roots support for reform because he and Congressional leaders took the most popular option, a single payer national health program, off the table. They would not consider the approach most Americans preferred. Instead, the Democrats have pushed a scheme that will enrich the health insurance industry – corporations that Americans hate and see as corrupt – by forcing Americans to buy their overpriced insurance.

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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 05:28 PM
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1. The administration is very reluctant to actually govern as Democrats...
But it's not too late.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 05:44 PM
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2. Isn't it funny that the Republicans had no problem governing by their point of view
or wielding their power when they were in charge.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:14 PM
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3. Pragmatism--no didtinquishable point of view. You can go right or
left.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:03 PM
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24. the pragmatism here is only reward or punishment we have is to give or withhold our vote
Those who profit from the wars can offer inside stock tips, lucrative jobs as lobbyists, CEO's, or no-work board members, and the punishment they can offer is being ridiculed out of politics, having an untimely plane accident, or a bullet.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:34 PM
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6. Yeah, we should be so outlandish! :)
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wuvuj Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 06:03 AM
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16. Because the US is essentially fascist?
...
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 08:49 AM
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17. yes, it is like they forget they have the MAJORITY.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:12 PM
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21. Another possibility: They know they're in charge; they just aren't on OUR side
"We don't have the votes" might very well just be a smokescreen.

"Thanks for your support, but we don't share your priorities" is the Dem message to us. That's my guess.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:18 PM
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4. Yet another stack of Chicken Little bullshit from OpEdNews.
For some people, we really AREN'T the reality-based party. :eyes:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:40 PM
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7. The reality is that this country elected DEMOCRATS...
...not "pragmatists" who shovel so much bipartisanshit that they get nothing done.
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tiny elvis Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 03:13 PM
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26. would your chicken little's acorn represent
war or betrayal?
would your falling sky represent betrayal or electoral defeat?
there is no sure meaning in your comment
are you just repeating things that sound good?
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:19 PM
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5. Tragically, if the Dems fail to learn the electoral lessons...
Edited on Tue Oct-06-09 06:20 PM by FlyByNight
...of '06 and '08, the republicans could regain a significant foothold in Congress. With the exception of the wealthy donor class, we'll ALL pay the price for republican governance should this happen.

:scared:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 08:16 PM
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8. Hey, why delay the inevitable? Let it get REAL BAD - REAL FAST!
Edited on Tue Oct-06-09 08:17 PM by ShortnFiery
Just perhaps then, the people MAY care more about our government transferring all of our nation's wealth to the upper 1% more than either Roman Polansky or David Letterman? :(
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:02 PM
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9. Yep - and us Hillary supporters were CONDEMNED by the obama cultists!!!
I had many a nasty "scolding" by these idiots - and they were all constantly harrassing anyone and everyone about obama's "plan" - WHAT A CROCK!!!

But watch these same idiots now claim that obama NEVER SAID SUCH THINGS!!!

And, without even reading the responses here - I'm sure there are some idiots spewing the koolaid NOW...
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:13 PM
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10. so how do we clean these traitors out of our party?
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 01:20 AM
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11. One term Obama
Obama is proving himself to be a monumental fool.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:05 AM
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13. Truer Words Have Never Appeared Here
Somebody ought to allow some oxygen into that bubble in DC.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 02:27 AM
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12. XOULD IT BE A HOAX? THERE ARE NO REAL DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS AND SENATE? EXCEPT DENNIS AND FEINGOLD?
NO REAL DEMOCRATS TO BE FOUND, EXCEPT OUT HERE WHERE BELIEF
SYSTEMS TAKE THE LEAD. 
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 08:50 AM
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18. :-)
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:54 AM
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14. Are we really leaving Iraq? I hope so. If not, we'll start hearing 'Obama Lied, People Died'...

just sayin'... we still have 2 wars, 8 years later

I thought the election was a mandate.

I guess only selectively.
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aaronbav Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 10:39 PM
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28. Hah! It appears the only MANDATE will be for us to buy
CRAP insurance for FOR PROFIT PRIVATE insurance Corp's! Now HOW's THAT for CAHNGE!!!!
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:57 AM
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15. Bullshit
I dont recall Obama saying we would pull out of Afghanistan. And fuck all you PUMAS out there.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 09:03 AM
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19. Whether he said it or not, getting out is the right thing to do.
Right back at ya!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 01:44 PM
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20. wtf is your problem?
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:44 PM
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25. That's because he didn't.
He did say that he would refocus the war on terrror from Iraq to Afghanistan. Which is what he is doing.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:38 PM
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22. I am finding it harder every day to tell one party from the other anymore...
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tiny elvis Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 03:29 PM
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27. neolibs and neocons have the same goals
Edited on Sun Oct-11-09 03:36 PM by tiny elvis
neocons unload their shotguns on poor people and take their stuff
neolibs admonish neocons for their brashness while they scoop up the loot
or
'it seems a shame,' the walrus said, 'to play them such a trick,
'after we've brought them out so far and made them trot so quick.'
the carpenter said nothing but, 'the butter's spread too thick.'

'i weep for you,' the walrus said. 'i deeply sympathize.'
with sobs and tears he sorted out those of the largest size,
holding his pocket handkerchief before his streaming eyes.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 12:52 PM
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23. One little point against this statement:
"Anti-war Democrats were enough to carry him through the primary and into the presidency."

More registered Democrats voted for Hillary than for Obama.

:shrug:
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