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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 10:51 AM
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How the Religious Right Stole Christmas

By Sandhya Bathija, Church and State
Posted on December 7, 2009, Printed on December 8, 2009
http://www.alternet.org/story/144431/

Last holiday season, Bill O’Reilly was fuming a little bit more than usual.

The bombastic Fox News host declared that Washington Gov. Christine Gregoire had "insulted Christians all over the world” when she "allowed” a Winter Solstice display to stand next to a Christmas tree and a Nativity scene in the state’s capitol building.

But what O’Reilly failed to acknowledge in his op-ed for The Washington Times was that Gregoire was just doing her job. She was enforcing a court order that stemmed from a case between the state and O’Reilly’s friends at the Alliance Defense Fund.

The ADF, a Religious Right group, had represented a local man who wanted to erect a Nativity scene in the state capitol rotunda, forcing the state in 2007 to broaden its policy on displays.

That meant that when the next holiday season rolled around, the capitol rotunda had to be open to an atheist sign that stated, "At this season of the Winter Solstice, may reason prevail. There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds.”

Even if he was aware of those facts, O’Reilly’s rant came as little surprise.

Every year during the holiday season, right-wing pundits and Religious Right groups rally their followers by claiming there is a "war on Christmas.” These groups are outraged annually by holiday displays, parades, music and anything else that has to do with the December holiday – unless a large dollop of Christianity is included.

Last year, it got so bad in Olympia that protestors began gathering outside the Capitol demanding that the Solstice sign come down. The demonstrators attacked Gregoire, carrying signs that portrayed her as the Grinch.

The Rev. Ken Hutcherson, a Religious Right leader in the community, announced at the protest that the governor had "led the state of Washington to be the armpit of America. And I’m afraid that our governor is the one adding the offensive odor to the armpit.”

After last year’s debacle over religious symbols in the capitol rotunda, state officials have issued new permanent rules barring all nongovernment displays inside the Capitol campus building.

The Washington Department of General Administration signed off on the policy after listening to testimony at hearings in September. Dennis Mansker, Americans United’s South Sound Chapter president, supported the proposed changes and provided suggestions for how the state should handle temporary displays on Capitol grounds.

"We do not need a repeat of last year’s holiday display embarrassment,” he said. "Though we support free speech, we all learned the potential hazards of an open public forum. Our Capitol building should be used to carry out the people’s business, which includes allowing people to petition their lawmakers. But space is limited, thus a prohibition on unattended displays makes perfect sense.”

Despite the ban on displays inside the Capitol rotunda, the new policy still allows religious displays outside the Capitol campus buildings, which could move last year’s dispute to the outdoors, Mansker said.

"As far as the new rule goes, I think it hasn’t really solved anything,” he said. "Now there will be Nativity scenes outside the Capitol building, which I think makes the problem worse. Outdoor displays are by their nature more visible and therefore much more likely to give the impression that the state is supporting religion.”

Situations like this are not isolated. As early as October this year, a Michigan resident claimed religious persecution because the government would not permit him to erect a stand-alone Nativity scene on public land.

John Satawa claims he has placed the crèche on the median of a public road in Warren, Mich., for decades. Last year, Warren’s road commission rejected the Nativity scene because Satawa had not requested a permit. This year, when he asked ahead of time, he was officially turned down because the tableau "clearly displays a religious message” and would violate the First Amendment.

Satawa, represented by the Religious Right’s Thomas More Law Center, filed a lawsuit challenging the city’s decision.

"Every Christmas holiday,” said Richard Thompson, Center president and chief counsel, "militant atheists, acting like the Taliban, use the phrase ‘separation of church and state,’ – nowhere found in our Constitution – as a means of intimidating municipalities and schools into removing expressions celebrating Christmas, a national holiday.

"Their goal is to cleanse our public square of all Christian symbols,” he continued. "However, the grand purpose of our Founding Fathers and the First Amendment was to protect religion, not eliminate it.”

Over the years, Americans United for Separation of Church and State has urged government officials to remember the Constitution when dealing with holiday displays. AU’s legal department has sent letters to numerous city and county overnments advising them on the law regarding crèches on public land.

Expert advice about Nativity scenes is important because the law governing such displays is far from straightforward thanks to two U.S. Supreme Court decisions: Lynch v. Donnelly and City of Allegheny v. ACLU.

The 1984 Lynch case involved Pawtucket, R.I., which erected a Christmas display in a park. It included a Santa Claus house, reindeer pulling Santa’s sleigh, candy-striped poles, a Christmas tree, carolers, some cut-out shapes of a clown, elephant and teddy bear, colored lights and a large banner that read "Seasons Greetings.” The city also included a depiction of the birth of Jesus within this display.

City residents and the local ACLU filed a lawsuit to challenge the inclusion of the crèche, which consisted of the infant Jesus, Mary and Joseph, angels, shepherds, wise men and animals. The high court, in a 5-4 decision, upheld the Nativity scene as constitutional. Because the display was accompanied by other secular holiday symbols, the court majority reasoned, it did not constitute a government endorsement of religion.

Chief Justice Warren Burger, writing for the court, said the city had "principally taken note of a significant historical religious event long celebrated in the Western World. The crèche in the display depicts the historical origins of this traditional event long recognized as a National holiday.”

The Burger court’s decision was praised by the Rev. Jerry Falwell, who said, "This ruling portends good things for the future.”

Falwell’s then lieutenant, Cal Thomas, echoed that sentiment, claiming the high court had removed "religious Americans from second-class citizenship.”

Civil liberties groups were disappointed but received some better news five years later in the Allegheny decision. For the first time the high court stated definitively that religious symbols standing alone at public buildings violate church-state separation.

The court considered two religious displays: a freestanding Nativity scene on the steps of a Pennsylvania courthouse and an 18-foot menorah outside the nearby city-county building, which was part of a display that included secular holiday symbols, such as a 45-foot Christmas tree.

The justices upheld the menorah. Writing for the court, Justice Harry A. Blackmun said, "The necessary result of placing a menorah next to a Christmas tree is to create an ‘overall holiday setting’ that represents both Christmas and Chanukah – two holidays, not one.” (See "When Symbols Clash,” September 1989 Church & State.)

But the crèche standing alone took things too far, Blackmun held.

"There is no doubt, of course, that the crèche itself is capable of communicating a religious message,” he wrote. "Unlike in Lynch, nothing in the context of the display detracts from the crèche’s religious message.

"Lynch teaches that government may celebrate Christmas in some manner and form, but not in a way that endorses Christian doctrine,” he continued. "Here, Allegheny County has transgressed this line. It has chosen to celebrate Christmas in a way that has the effect of endorsing a patently Christian message: Glory to God for the birth of Jesus Christ.”

These leading Supreme Court rulings have led to confusion about whether a Nativity scene can stand on public land.

That’s why almost every year, disputes over crèches are inevitable.

But it doesn’t just stop with religious symbols. Religious Right groups find any means possible to stir up controversy over Christmas, trying to push "Christian nation” propaganda and arguing that civil liberties groups are censoring religious speech.

Catholic League President Bill Donohue issued a press release on Nov. 3 of this year headlined "War on Christmas Commences.” In the release, he cited several instances, not just those regarding crèche displays, showcasing how "cultural fascists” have tried to ruin Christmas 2009.

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http://www.alternet.org/belief/144431/how_the_religious_right_stole_christmas

The American Taliban has to make up false attacks to distract the public from their real purpose which is to help the money changers rape the world. Something that the Taliban loves to do since they're actually perverts who think about sex all the time!
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 12:20 PM
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1. It's perhaps worth noting...
that the only time to my knowledge that there was a REAL war on Christmas was when Oliver Cromwell and his Puritans were in power in England, and banned Christmas celebrations because they considered Christmas as an irreligious and immoral adaptation of a pagan festival.

In other words, the only serious attempt to ban Christmas came not from secularists but from Christian fundies.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 01:05 PM
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2. The Christian right wants to dominate. Period.
Edited on Tue Dec-08-09 01:44 PM by silverweb
They do not want open or equal expression of any other religious beliefs/holidays/symbols but their own. That's the bottom line.

The same is obviously true of other extreme right wing religious groups in their majority countries, i.e., the Afghanistan's Taliban, Saudi Arabia's Wahhabism, Israel's Haredi, etc.

It's wrong and it has to stop.

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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 10:06 PM
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5. Sometimes.
But I constantly read things that show that others simply don't want to feel humiliated or left out or they can't pass up the opportunity to be offensive, so they do things that they wouldn't otherwise do.

Would people have wanted the solstice exhibit if not for the purpose of offending or to avoid feeling slighted?

I've known people like that--some were Xian, some weren't. Annoying, equally so, every one.

Things like this are like Ramadan in the West Bank, Epiphany in Orthodox countries, etc., etc. Most people are into them, all it costs is a little tolerance to overlook them. As long as you're not coerced into observing or overly inconvenienced, eh. There is no equal expression of religious symbols: When 90% of people do X, 2% do Y, 3% do Z, and 5% do Q, stipulating that X, Y, Z and Q all be equally represented seems both silly and impossible. Adjust the numbers to suit your reality.

I can say that because the holidays I did observe aren't sanctioned by any government, but I was consistently forced to take off time that I'd rather have been working. Things like Xmas and New Year's. Personally, there's no good reason for them being government holidays, apart from the fact that the majority of the population wants them to be and we're, in some sense, a democracy.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:56 PM
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7. I think your response shows a great lack of insight
Not wanting to feel humiliated is certainly a very legitimate reason to protest an action of your government which humiliates you (or your faith). Protesting this is not wanting to be offensive, but is better known as "sticking up for ones rights", a venerable tradition in our Republic. If you choose to characterize this as being somehow "annoying", so be it. It does not make their right to protest any less legitimate.

I doubt that the people who put up the Solstice exhibit were doing so to offend others, any more than I doubt that the people who put up the Xmas display did so in order to humiliate. The issue is not, however, one of intent. Intent is irrelevant. What matters is result. The road to Hell is often paved with good intentions. I am likewise amazed at your stunning suggestion that members of a minority religion in the U.S. should just use a "little tolerance" when their government is espousing a different religion, The minority in this country is not required to be tolerant of actions by its government which are illegal.

In addition, there is no requirement in any place I have seen which insists on an "equal representation religious symbols based on the percentage of adherents to a given religion". Instead, the law is clear that when you upon a public forum (i.e. government property) to one religious symbol you must also open it to other religion's symbols as well. This is what the Court order Gov. Gregoire to do, a concept conveniently overlooked by the fervent Xians who wanted to tar and feather her.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 03:39 PM
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3. They think themselves oppressed because they can't force the rest of the us to follow their religion
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 03:47 PM
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4. Only 2 things I Like About Xmas: The Music, and the Pagan Bits
the whole child in a manger routine, stolen from Zoroastrianism, the trees and greenery from druids...the log fires from the Vikings (Jul), etc. etc.

The only parts of Christianity from the Mother Church worth keeping: Jesus the wandering rabbi, St. Nicholas giver of gifts of hope and stimulus, St. Francis of Assisi and St. Clare, the original hippies; those the Church ignores in theory and denigrates in practice. No, It's Saul of Tarsus, struck by lightning, day in and day out. Paul who hated women, hated deviance, hated just about everything, in Christ's name, and built a Church that relied on Roman hierarchy and military tactics.
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Mariano Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:05 AM
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6. DOGMATHEISM
How long will the FFRF go on positively affirming God’s non-existence without evidence?

Is this not what they condemn as “faith”?

They are doing it this year and they did it last year:

http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2008/12/dan-barker-and-neo-pagan-atheism.html
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 03:21 PM
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8. How long will you keep asserting something that isn't true?
The FFRF does not try to positively affirm gods non-existence.

They will be the first ones to tell you that you can't prove a negative.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 04:25 PM
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9. and people wonder why the Pagans and other religious groups are afraid to be too public....
Edited on Thu Dec-24-09 04:26 PM by winyanstaz
The Christian Taliban will attack them if they think they can get away with it.
They do NOT want "freedom of religion"....they want only their OWN ideas of religion and God to be allowed.
The fact is..the Christians stole Winter Solstice and Yule in the first place.
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 05:16 AM
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10. While they're at it, they can keep the MYTH stolen and copied from ancient mythology.
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