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Bernard Weiner
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Wed Dec-16-09 02:56 AM Original message |
The Self-Destruction of Barack Obama |
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villager
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Wed Dec-16-09 03:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. Ah, the Panglossians have begun the unrecs! |
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Eric68601
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Wed Dec-16-09 03:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yeah well |
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elocs
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Wed Dec-16-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. Right, and it was so important that the very first response was used to point it out. |
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democracy1st
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Wed Dec-16-09 03:31 AM Response to Original message |
2. K & R I'm just blown away by his weak leadership . What does he stand for ? |
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slay
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Wed Dec-16-09 04:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I'm pretty shocked at how bad it is too. Our real chance for change is GONE. |
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Goldstein1984
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Wed Dec-16-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
65. Re: Howard Dean |
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Daemonaquila
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Wed Dec-16-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #65 |
88. I'll still support Kucinich first... |
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Goldstein1984
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Wed Dec-16-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Kucinich is good too |
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DumbBassRepublicans
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #91 |
113. How about.... |
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wuvuj
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Wed Dec-16-09 05:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. COMPROMISE... |
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rhett o rick
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
108. Sorry, what? nt |
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spooked911
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
100. he's a tool of the powers that be |
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MISSDem
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Thu Dec-17-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #100 |
158. I believe you but I wonder who are these powers. |
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IsItJustMe
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
107. As the old song goes "Absolutetly Nothing". To be more accurate though, from what I have seen. |
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cyclezealot
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Thu Dec-17-09 02:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
144. We'll hope he gets his nerve back.. |
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struggle4progress
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Wed Dec-16-09 04:19 AM Response to Original message |
4. The real problem is: we stopped making community phone calls and door knocks after the election. |
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katandmoon
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. How does knocking on doors and making phone calls change anything? |
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struggle4progress
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. What wins in politics is being organized. Our opponents have the monetary resources to buy |
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pundaint
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Wed Dec-16-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
64. Yeah, we did that. |
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Goldstein1984
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Wed Dec-16-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
68. Yes, but organization needs leadership. |
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jberryhill
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
116. Organized to do WHAT? |
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Mojorabbit
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #116 |
135. + 100 |
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jberryhill
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:46 AM Response to Reply #135 |
136. Try my own mother... |
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chervilant
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
118. Gee, thanks |
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jberryhill
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:48 AM Response to Reply #118 |
137. "rampant hedonism"? |
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JDPriestly
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
110. Knocking on doors is the most effective form of campaigning. |
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jberryhill
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Wed Dec-16-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
46. Nonsense - I urged anyone I knew to support a "robust public option" |
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freddie mertz
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Wed Dec-16-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I bought the line too. Went out and stood against the tea-baggers at events in PA. |
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Goldstein1984
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Wed Dec-16-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
69. In my very first post on DU, I called for dissent, and... |
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Hestia
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:35 AM Response to Reply #46 |
131. You're absolutely correct . After the Inauguration, I/we all waited for our next job, |
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jberryhill
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:02 AM Response to Reply #131 |
139. "I say we have a collection one day not going to work" |
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Hestia
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Fri Dec-18-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #139 |
164. You're right, the concept of Not Going To Work One day becomes a how does this effect me campaign |
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pundaint
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Wed Dec-16-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
63. don't blame the victim |
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grahamhgreen
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Wed Dec-16-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
73. It's because he started to ask us to support corporate give-aways instead of real reform. |
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Waiting For Everyman
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Wed Dec-16-09 04:37 AM Response to Original message |
6. We need: an economic populist, anti-corporatist party. |
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depakid
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. TIMIDITY IS NOT GOOD POLITICS |
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tomm2thumbs
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Wed Dec-16-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. +1 |
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dflprincess
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Wed Dec-16-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
42. And pragmatism makes bad policy |
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Goldstein1984
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Wed Dec-16-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
80. We need to step outside of the system |
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AndrewP
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #19 |
102. +1 |
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TexasEditor
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Wed Dec-16-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
60. " We need: an economic populist, anti-corporatist party" |
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Goldstein1984
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Wed Dec-16-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
72. Both parties are corporatist |
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Fading Captain
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
101. Sing It People: 6. We need: an economic populist, anti-corporatist party. |
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Demeter
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Wed Dec-16-09 05:19 AM Response to Original message |
7. I'm Not Holding My Breath |
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truedelphi
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #7 |
122. I like your sentiments but am so confused. |
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TexasObserver
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Wed Dec-16-09 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
9. Recommend. It's a quality read, and, unfortunately, far too accurate. |
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pjt7
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Nice article |
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placton
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
11. shhhhhhhhhh |
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midnight
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
12. I would say the President has been too polite to those who have and to those |
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DumbBassRepublicans
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
114. President Polite.... |
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boomerbust
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
14. Bernie |
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Kermitt Gribble
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Wed Dec-16-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. So you think |
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boomerbust
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Wed Dec-16-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Not at all |
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Kermitt Gribble
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Wed Dec-16-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I would agree |
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liberation
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Wed Dec-16-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
77. Arbitrary deadlines are a red herring which lost its luster a while back |
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bobshin
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:04 AM Response to Reply #14 |
124. ...three years later. It's less than four years and you have already stuck |
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4dsc
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
16. Obama needs to clean house with this advisors |
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dgibby
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Wed Dec-16-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Whenever I see someone |
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chimpymustgo
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Wed Dec-16-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
59. +100000000000. |
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Kermitt Gribble
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Wed Dec-16-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. Wake up. |
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pundaint
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Wed Dec-16-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
66. as opposed to being a vacuous and vital man before that. |
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Kermitt Gribble
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Wed Dec-16-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #66 |
89. Gasp! You caught me! |
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liberation
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Wed Dec-16-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
78. You do realize intelligence is a neutral concept right? |
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Kermitt Gribble
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Wed Dec-16-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. Cool your jets there, sparky. |
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DumbBassRepublicans
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
117. You're ABSOLUTELY right.... |
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pundaint
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #117 |
133. That might have some legs if he didn't renew the patriot act, |
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Goldstein1984
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Wed Dec-16-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
81. Obama selected those advisors |
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nightrain
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
17. knr! Thanks! A very cogent essay. As many of us here on DU have been saying for months! |
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Lasher
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
18. So much for sticking with the robust public-option on health-care reform. |
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The_Commonist
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
20. Palin/Cheney |
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pjt7
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Wed Dec-16-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. third party is the only political hope |
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emilyg
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Wed Dec-16-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. That no longer makes me feel better. |
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get the red out
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Wed Dec-16-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
57. Me neither |
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gorfle
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
21. Awesome post. K&R! |
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Loge23
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Wed Dec-16-09 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
23. It should be the end of the two party monopoly |
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Goldstein1984
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Wed Dec-16-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
82. The two-party system is a self-perpetuating system funded by |
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debbierlus
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Wed Dec-16-09 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
24. He is the corporate golden boy and what makes you think they will LET him lose |
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natrat
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Wed Dec-16-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. no, in close elections they throw it in the middle of the night literally |
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Goldstein1984
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Wed Dec-16-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
83. Our votes count to put somebody in office |
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alterfurz
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
92. TPTB are perfectly content to let Obama eloquate about change |
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dgibby
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Wed Dec-16-09 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
27. Excellent. Thank you so much. n/t |
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tomm2thumbs
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Wed Dec-16-09 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
30. he has burned bridge after bridge - and continues lighting 'em with his base |
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snake in the grass
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Wed Dec-16-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
34. I don't believe he is... |
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pscot
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Wed Dec-16-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
58. Maybe |
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Wed Dec-16-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
36. K&R. |
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cstanleytech
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Wed Dec-16-09 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
37. After 8+ years of republican misrule and mistakes what exactly do you think he can do? |
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defendandprotect
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Wed Dec-16-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
53. What did FDR do ... ??? Did he have a magic wand . . . ???? |
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cstanleytech
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:34 AM Response to Reply #53 |
130. He still had congress and the senate votes, thats the key you and others seem to be missing. |
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defendandprotect
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Thu Dec-17-09 03:39 AM Response to Reply #130 |
146. I'd suggest you read the Jane Hamsher article ....the problem is CORPORATISM....fascism... |
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cstanleytech
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Fri Dec-18-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #146 |
162. I dont know where ya pulled the following from |
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Hestia
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #53 |
138. You're right, FDR went straight to the people. No matter how grim and dour the news was, the people |
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defendandprotect
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Thu Dec-17-09 03:43 AM Response to Reply #138 |
147. Agree on Emmanuel/DLC -- Conyers is also pointing to him . . . |
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Hestia
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Fri Dec-18-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #147 |
163. 1963 demoralized the entire country. We lost our national soul when JFK, MLK & RFK were |
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Wed Dec-16-09 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
38. disappointing though he may be so far, the ONLY way this will hurt his re-election chances would be: |
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:10 AM Response to Reply #38 |
126. Hillary will jump ship soon |
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:37 AM Response to Reply #126 |
132. don't doubt that about obama. |
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defendandprotect
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Thu Dec-17-09 03:57 AM Response to Reply #38 |
148. You may think things look "bright" for Obama, but I think you should look at Jane Hamsher's |
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Wed Dec-16-09 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
39. So much truth in so few words!! K & R. What just dawned on me was the realization that |
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defendandprotect
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Thu Dec-17-09 04:04 AM Response to Reply #39 |
149. This isn't a problem of personality traits nor a lack of perception . .. |
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bertman
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Thu Dec-17-09 08:24 AM Response to Reply #149 |
151. Thanks, dandp, I soak up all of Jane's commentaries I can get my hands on. |
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DemReadingDU
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Wed Dec-16-09 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
40. You're back! |
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Kablooie
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Wed Dec-16-09 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
41. Unfortunately we need a tough fighter, not a deep thinker right now. |
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #41 |
129. Carry a BIG stick.... and shove it up LIE-BERMANN'S ass.... |
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Divine Discontent
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Wed Dec-16-09 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
43. The best Republican in Democratic clothing they could have asked for - and the teabaggers |
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Wed Dec-16-09 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
44. Deleted message |
Divine Discontent
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Wed Dec-16-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. you may want to look into google on the name and title of his writings 'the crisis papers', as your |
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Wed Dec-16-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. Please, my friend, do a bit of discovery before trashing a long-time contributor to DU. |
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pundaint
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Wed Dec-16-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #44 |
71. What a cogent and compelling criticism |
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Blue Owl
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Wed Dec-16-09 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
45. This is exactly how I feel |
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Better Believe It
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Wed Dec-16-09 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
47. Thank you for your article. |
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Divine Discontent
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Wed Dec-16-09 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
48. Compromising with the bastards who made America the disaster it is, was wrong-headed at best |
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defendandprotect
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Wed Dec-16-09 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
50. Heard some of Schultz again today -- evidently Conyers says obama listening to Rahm . . .!!! |
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defendandprotect
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Wed Dec-16-09 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
52. Great Post -- !! |
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Zoeisright
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Wed Dec-16-09 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
54. Sad but true. |
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Raster
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Wed Dec-16-09 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
55. Thank you! Long past time these issues are brought to light! |
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Joe Chi Minh
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Wed Dec-16-09 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
62. In the early days of Obama's tenure, I said that two things would estabish |
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elocs
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Wed Dec-16-09 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
67. "Timidity", that describes Obama. Big on rhetoric, words, and promises. |
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ima_sinnic
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Wed Dec-16-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. timid and conformist |
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DeadEyeDyck
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Wed Dec-16-09 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
70. If Obama had any nads |
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DailyGrind51
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Wed Dec-16-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
74. We voted for "FDR" and elected "Jimmy Carter"! |
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liberation
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Wed Dec-16-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Nope it seems we got an economic Hoover with the international policy leanings of an LBJ... |
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MissDeeds
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Wed Dec-16-09 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
76. K&R |
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Goldstein1984
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Wed Dec-16-09 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
84. Great Post!!! - Sums up the problem--Corporate America and a |
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Doctor_J
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Wed Dec-16-09 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
86. I won't be donating, walking, or pone banking in 2012 |
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Joe Chi Minh
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Wed Dec-16-09 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
87. It's ironical that he seems to be the right man in the right job. Just at the wrong time. |
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dreamnightwind
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Wed Dec-16-09 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
90. It's not timidity... |
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twitomy
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. Your on to something.. |
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dreamnightwind
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Thu Dec-17-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #96 |
156. Yes we need Joe Sixpack |
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twitomy
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Thu Dec-17-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #156 |
159. A very much a "marriage" of convenience to be sure. |
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dreamnightwind
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Thu Dec-17-09 10:16 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. yes... |
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twitomy
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Fri Dec-18-09 06:50 AM Response to Reply #160 |
161. I agree with you totally.. |
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varelse
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #90 |
105. I hate like hell to agree with you about our President's attitude toward progressives, |
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ChairmanAgnostic
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #90 |
111. please pass around whatever you are smoking. Sharing is a good thing |
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dreamnightwind
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Thu Dec-17-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #111 |
157. Thanks for a good laugh |
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Lorien
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #90 |
128. He mocked the "tired tactics of the 1960's and '70's" (which brought us |
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Enthusiast
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #128 |
154. I was also puzzled by |
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mnhtnbb
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
93. It's beginning to look like the best thing about Obama is... his family! |
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Optimistic
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
94. This may be the most Pro-Buisness Right Wing POTUS ever |
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KoKo
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
95. Bernie...so glad to see you posting again and your friend Partridge has another good post |
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
97. I disagree (about 2010, at least) |
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
98. Obama Has Not Surprised Me |
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
99. If this healthcare plan is the best Obama can develop with a Democratic majority |
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
103. The man who killed HOPE |
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
104. K & R. nt |
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
106. good summary |
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
109. And his biggest mistake -- He has chickened out on taking on the CIA. |
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
112. He will win 2012 people haven't forgotten how insane the GOP are just yet... |
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
115. K&R |
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
119. Impeach Obama for obstructing services? |
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
120. Fuck up a wet dream |
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #120 |
141. I'm with ya |
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
121. proud rec #242! |
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
123. Good Read... Too Bad That So Much Of It Is So Awfully TRUE!! |
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
125. I agree with most of this article! Obama is too comfortable dancing |
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
127. DAMN!! I wish Obama read this OP. |
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
134. Kick & rec # 258 From Me |
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
140. Awesome article Bernard |
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
142. This week is the first time I wished I had voted for Hillary. |
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Thu Dec-17-09 07:05 AM Response to Reply #142 |
150. Maybe the Teabaggers were kinda right |
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
143. Sadly . . . |
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Thu Dec-17-09 02:29 AM Response to Original message |
145. Barack Obama |
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Thu Dec-17-09 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
152. rpoe a dope |
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Thu Dec-17-09 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
153. progressives cannot evaluate or strategize for dem progress while ignoring talk radio- |
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Thu Dec-17-09 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
155. There have been a few mentions of a third party. |
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