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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:25 PM
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Howard Dean, Movement Leader (UPDATED)
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 11:45 PM by waiting for hope


by: David Sirota
Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 08:47

I want to take a moment just to recognize what has been recognized before, but needs to be recognized right here and now one more time: Howard Dean is a genuine hero.

In coming out against the Lieberman-gutted health insurance "reform" bill, Dean is leveraging every shred of power he can muster to create the political space for the final bill - whether passed now, or later after going back to the drawing board - to be better and more progressive. He has made a compelling case that the bill "would do more harm than good," as he says in his Washington Post op-ed today - and in doing that he has made the power struggle between Joe Lieberman's Palpatinian forces of insurance/drug industry darkness and the progressive movement far more symmetrical.

Before Dean's move, the fight was asymmetrical, as Chris Hayes noted in my interview with him on my radio show yesterday. Before Dean's move, Lieberman had the upper hand in that he was the only one who didn't seem to care whether he alone killed the bill by joining with Republicans for a filibuster. Now, though, Dean has said to progressive members of Congress that they should be OK killing this bill if that's what taking a stand for a better bill means. And you see some of them potentially starting to follow.

This is why the White House and the Beltway media is now publicly freaking out at Dean in a way they never freaked out on corporate Dems (Lieberman, Baucus, Nelson, etc.) who were previously obstructing the bill: Because Dean is threatening to change the dynamic that the Beltway was always counting on - a dynamic that relied on progressives ultimately capitulating to the Joe Liebermans, the Rahm Emanuels, the insurance industry and the drug lobbyists. That dynamic only exists if progressive members of Congress - and the larger progressive movement and general public - believes passing the bill is more important than killing it to make it better. If they and we don't believe that, as Howard Dean doesn't and as new polls show we don't, then suddenly progressive members of Congress and the progressive movement can feel free to be as cutthroat as Lieberman himself.

~Snip~

But here's the thing: It's not like Barack Obama won't be president and Democrats won't control Congress tomorrow. They can go back to the drawing board right now and have the same political topography before them when they come back to the House and Senate floors. And last I checked, when this bill was in more progressive form (ie. with a public option and Medicare buy-in) I didn't hear any of these voices in DC say the bill needed to be on a "must pass immediately" track - only when the bill was gutted are these voices now screaming for it to be immediately passed...hmm...

All of that said, wherever you come down on the substance of the Lieberman-gutted bill, it's clear Dean has created a new progressive dynamic here. He has made it more likely that something better will come out of the Congress either now or in the near future than the monstrosity Lieberman has created. How? By doing his part to create the political space and leverage for us to demand more.

~Snip~

More at Link


I'd like to repeat a comment made on Open Left to this article - "Why the rush", he asked, "to pass a very bad bill since this bill won't go into effect for years?"

Excellent Point.

On Edit - missing letter
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:33 PM
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1. Interesting thought. K&R.
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 11:55 PM by Zenlitened
...he has made the power struggle... far more symmetrical.




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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:35 PM
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2. Excellent article. David Sirota is great!!!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:44 PM
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4. Brilliant -And a hottie too -
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:21 AM
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14. Yep.
:D
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:39 PM
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3. Unlike what many of us "Legacy DU'ers" remember from the 2000 Selection...I'm Proud
we finally have a Dem Back Up for us. We didn't back then or even in 2004 with Kerry...but NOW we have a VOICE of RESPECT to BACK US UP!

Go Howard Dean and the Network of Progressives we've built after all these years.

I don't feel all alone ..this time when we've been betrayed...and that's a very good feeling. We might not realize what a difference we have made but we have and the "cornered evil" is fighting back and trying to bite us back...but we now have POWER...
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:46 PM
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7. It's so true - we now have Air America, 3 cable news shows - and
people willing to stand up for progressive values. You're right - it feels good.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:45 PM
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5. K&R for Dr. Dean!!!
He's given way too little credit for changing the political landscape in this coiuntry... :patriot::yourock:
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:46 PM
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6. That is a funny thought...why pass it soon when most of it won't kick in for years.
Hilarious. Actually its kind of sad.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:52 PM
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8. Isn't it sad? Why the rush before Christmas?
Why the rush to pass something that basically is a POS - they all know it, but it's the political expediency that is pushing them... they have to say that this was done in the first year of office. Frankly, the American people don't need a legacy bullet point, they need meaningful reform and we needed it yesterday.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:04 AM
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10. They want to move on to fixing the economy, which I told them they should do first anyway.
Oh well.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:03 AM
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9. All good points, and here's another one-
Edited on Fri Dec-18-09 12:07 AM by chill_wind
I ran across tonite in comments section at one of the FDL article sections.
They were talking about the Lanny Davis debacle, with Jane Hamsher handing him his arse, but a poster there had an even more telling observation:



There are different tiers or groups of spokespersons that the cable networks go to for comments when they’re putting together these segments. Depending on who appears, you can get a pretty good sense of where the administration (Obama) or the political party leadership stands on an issue.

I think it’s fair to say that the Obama administration and the faction pushing this Senate bill is majorly on the defensive, and don’t want to put a Democratic politician’s face on it, to defend it or to front it, because the only people defending it on the air is Obama’s political hack, David Axelrod, and Lanny Davis, the paid whore (lobbyist) from PhRma.

The backlash coming at Democratic politicians from their constituents, fueled by the fury from the base, has got to be huge. To hide as they’re doing means they are scared. But not enough to do the right thing. Yet.

So when you see Lanny Davis on any show, know it’s because you, we, have Democratic politicians listening and frightened.

http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/12/17/best-way-to-%E2%80%9Cfix-it-later%E2%80%9D-is-with-no-individual-mandate-now/#comments



It struck me that even Mary Landrieu wasn't really trying to sell the bill on Matthews last night.
She seemed she was there more to try to bat down Dean. Other than her, how many Dems have we seen really out front the last few days trying to associate themselves with actively *selling this* great piece of crap?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:06 AM
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11. Ha! When no one else wants to take claim send Lanny.
Lol.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:15 AM
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12. Davis ... what a wuss.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:19 AM
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13. Query: why should progressive do the health insurers bidding?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:46 AM
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15. Why pass something now? Because sometimes we don't get second or third chances to do things.
Edited on Fri Dec-18-09 12:50 AM by wisteria
We may not see another opportunity for HCR in 20 or more years from now. Look how long it has been since the Clinton's tried this? Do wereally want to risk this moment in time,and are we willing to wait for the possibility of another chance to come around again to do something that needs doing right now? We may never pass this way again.
I heard Dean say when he was for the bill, that we needed to act fast before the 2010 elections so that people could have enough opportunity to see how good the bill would be for them. Now that he is against the bill be have all the time in the world to start over?
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:50 AM
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16. All the more reason to do it right.
Like Sirota said, after the first of the year, we still will have Obama in the White House and Dems controlling congress. Why pass something that will do more harm than good?
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