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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:15 AM
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The first time someone gay is killed by the state in Uganda, these Christofascists will have blood .

There just are no words:


Last March, three American evangelical Christians, whose teachings about “curing” homosexuals have been widely discredited in the United States, arrived here in Uganda’s capital to give a series of talks.

The theme of the event, according to Stephen Langa, its Ugandan organizer, was “the gay agenda — that whole hidden and dark agenda” — and the threat homosexuals posed to Bible-based values and the traditional African family.

For three days, according to participants and audio recordings, thousands of Ugandans, including police officers, teachers and national politicians, listened raptly to the Americans, who were presented as experts on homosexuality. The visitors discussed how to make gay people straight, how gay men often sodomized teenage boys and how “the gay movement is an evil institution” whose goal is “to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity.”

Now the three Americans are finding themselves on the defensive, saying they had no intention of helping stoke the kind of anger that could lead to what came next: a bill to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior.

One month after the conference, a previously unknown Ugandan politician, who boasts of having evangelical friends in the American government, introduced the Anti-Homosexuality Bill of 2009, which threatens to hang homosexuals, and, as a result, has put Uganda on a collision course with Western nations.



The three Americans who spoke at the conference — Scott Lively, a missionary who has written several books against homosexuality, including “7 Steps to Recruit-Proof Your Child”; Caleb Lee Brundidge, a self-described former gay man who leads “healing seminars”; and Don Schmierer, a board member of Exodus International, whose mission is “mobilizing the body of Christ to minister grace and truth to a world impacted by homosexuality” — are now trying to distance themselves from the bill.

“I feel duped,” Mr. Schmierer said, arguing that he had been invited to speak on “parenting skills” for families with gay children. He acknowledged telling audiences how homosexuals could be converted into heterosexuals, but he said he had no idea some Ugandans were contemplating the death penalty for homosexuality.

“That’s horrible, absolutely horrible,” he said. “Some of the nicest people I have ever met are gay people.”

Mr. Lively and Mr. Brundidge have made similar remarks in interviews or statements issued by their organizations. But the Ugandan organizers of the conference admit helping draft the bill, and Mr. Lively has acknowledged meeting with Ugandan lawmakers to discuss it. He even wrote on his blog in March that someone had likened their campaign to “a nuclear bomb against the gay agenda in Uganda.” Later, when confronted with criticism, Mr. Lively said he was very disappointed that the legislation was so harsh.


Bullshit. Laughable bullshit. Scott Lively has a peculiar obsession with manly men. In this screed (h/t), he gives us a peek into what clearly makes him all sweaty and tingly:

Where is the masculine Jesus of the Bible in the life of today’s church? The Jesus who threw down the tables of the moneychangers and drove them out of the temple with a whip? The Jesus who faced down and tamed the Gerasene demoniac? The Jesus who, to their faces, excoriated the cultural and political leaders of the day as a “brood of vipers ” and “whitewashed sepulchers full of dead men ‘ s bones?” This masculine Jesus has been ejected from the American church. In His place is a false and emasculated Christ, as submissive and fearful of controversy as the men who now lead His flock.

Mmmmmmm.....Jesus with a whip. But it gets worse:

The church and this nation cry out for a revival of masculine Christianity, which is to say that we church leaders need to stop being such, for lack of a better word, sissies when it comes to social and political issues. We need to spend as much time confronting perpetrators as we do comforting victims. We need to do less fretting and more fighting for righteousness. For every motherly, feminine ministry of the church such as a Crisis Pregnancy Center or ex-gay support group, we need a battle-hardened, take-it-to-the-enemy masculine ministry like Operation Rescue (questions of civil disobedience aside). For every God-hating radical in government, academia and media we need a bold, no-nonsense, truth-telling Christian counterpart: trained, equipped and endorsed by the local church.

Yes, friends, misogyny and closetry in one hiding-behind-a-cardboard-cutout-o'Jesus package.

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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:22 AM
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1. some idiot un'rec'd this? what on earth are they afraid of? learning what some are doing in the
Edited on Mon Jan-04-10 09:25 AM by niyad
name of christ?

as for those three idiots not knowing what was likely to happen, not buying it. they stoke hatred and anger, and then say, "oops, didn't mean for THAT to happen, so none of this is MY fault."

actually, given the extreme rhetoric of some of the gay-hating reichwing christofascists, I don't think they would mind the blood on their hands.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 10:01 AM
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6. I suspect there is a bot doing the unrec's
Either that or Freeper who orgasms when he sees angry posts about it.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:25 AM
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2. It will be, literally, Christ Crucified yet again, another scapegoat for our own lies about Love.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:38 AM
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3. They already have blood on their hands.
Their lies and actions inspire hundreds of anti-gay killings every year in the US. It's just now a nation is going to do their dirty work for them under the law.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:56 AM
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4. Uganda has been wracked by wars and false messiahs. How dare the Christian Right even use Uganda.
K&R
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 10:00 AM
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5. Speaking of Whited Sepluchres: Odd, isn't it, how that would be yet another "Second Coming"
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 11:09 AM
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7. I am so glad Rachel Maddow is on these guys.
They tend to prove my theory, which is that the biggest guys in this movement are the biggest closet cases in so-called Christianity. "Macho Jesus" turns them on.
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